holodecks used to be a goal, but now i'm not so sure

The Avengers is leaving me confused on my OTPness. I find this upsetting.

Then again, my initial reaction to the movie was surprisingly eh--this is why I waited a week to talk about it, as I don't want to be attacked by my titular friends or anything. Four or five more viewings, oddly enough, did the trick.



I'm still thinking about it. I enjoyed but did not love on first viewing, and I honestly didn't see any need to think much further. However, on rewatch, I got to do the thing I can't do in theaters, and that's spend inordinate amounts of time concentrating on non-action bits (movie theatres are for explosions and running and if God is kind, swords, phasers, and leaping from great heights). God bless Bruce Banner.

Well, I liked everyone. But God do I love Natasha. I fell over my own feet shipping Natasha/Clint, which okay, sue me, but they are unholy hot and she totally kicks his ass for his own good. I could lie and say this does not cater to my kinks, but hello, did you see her? She finally got me to watch Iron Man 2 last night, and dude, I had less than zero desire to watch it until I realized she was in it. And now I did and happy.

My second favorite is Bruce, who did The Hulk like magic. He managed to finally make the Hulk a.) fucking terrifying, b.) not a idiot yet feral puppy of nature, c.) dangerous as hell, and d.) something that literally cannot be controlled but can be directed. For what time he had in the movie, it was fascinating to realize how much was gotten across by implication and by show not tell.

I have more thoughts, but most of them are basically about Natasha, Natasha, Natasha, Bruce, Bruce, Bruce, where I muse on their awesomeness. Also, I'm at wrok and they want me to do things.





I really loathe 3D because it breaks my focus--anyone with ADHD have this problem? I can't really explain it, but to give an possible interpretation, 3D for me is like the exact same movie but on five screens on top of each other all around me and I pretty much feel like I'm disassociating with reality for the first ten minutes. It is really weird and really unsettling until I can find a fixed point to concentrate on, which means I lose a lot of you know, plot until I can figure out how to focus on everything.

Seriously, I had no idea what was going on in any meaningful sense until the bit with Tony and Pepper. I get that this is the future of movie going and everything and I'm going to have to deal, but Jesus, this is going to take serious conditioning to get right. I also admit this may explain why I didn't like it in the theatre. Huh.



Today was a not so great day, so it involved pizza hut for lunch. I'm pretty sure their garlic dipping sauce involves addictive substances; I am literally holding myself back from just licking the tiny container clean.

Comments

[libitina]

I saw it in glorious 2D - and I've been avoiding 3D as if it were poison ivy

[seperis]

God, beautiful 2D. I mean, 3D makes me feel like I'm using my entire visual cortex wrong. I can't figure out how people can just watch it. It's like an epic effort for me to pull it off.

[ladysorka]

I avoid 3D like the plague. I've honestly never seen a full film in it and am basing my experiences on things like shows at Disney, but I find it really hard to focus on and it after about 5 minutes I have to either close my eyes or take off the glasses to prevent being literally ill. Which would be why I've never seen a full film in it. Combine that with the fact that 3D films cost more in the theatre, and I just don't see the point.

[grammarwoman]

My vision is several kinds of messed-up, so I don't have true binocular vision. (I have mental rough estimates that help with depth perception.) So for me, 3D simply doesn't work. Things are blurry, except where they're not and sort of jumping out at me, and dark, and don't fit on top of each other precisely and what was the point of paying more to see less? Plus, the glasses on top of glasses thing is never comfortable.

But HELL YES and \o/ to all the points you mentioned. Natasha played Loki and saved the world. FUCK YEAH BLACK WIDOW.

[jesse_the_k]

+1 with weird vision which permits me no 3d. I think we should get a discount, yes?

[princessofgeeks]

I can't watch 3D either. It breaks my brain. I have some kind of wiring issue with my eyes that affects my depth perception; one of my sons inherited it, apparently. neither of us gets a thing out of 3D.

[nianeyna]

OMG that is exactly how I feel about 3D. Like, I can appreciate that it looks cool? But I can't get immersed in the movie because I'm spending so much time and energy trying to convince myself that yes, that really is just one picture.

It might be better with animated instead of live-action, just because the film makers have more control so there's less chance of something going all blurry and throwing me out of it. The Brave preview was the only part of the movie that didn't give me a headache, anyway.

[synecdochic]

I have problems with the 3D that usually relate to focal length and the fact that my glasses are too huge to let the 3D glasses settle over them and stay put. I figured out that it works a lot better if I tie the arms of the 3D glasses to my glasses to keep them in one place. (The people around me in my theatre for the Avengers marathon laughed at me at first, and then like five people asked me for some of the yarn I was using to tie up the glasses. heh.)

[dani_the_girl]

Please tell me this is not the future of cinema! I refused to go to the 3d showing because it gives me a headache. I guess I'll just stop going to the cinema when 2d goes out of fashion - maybe just wait for the bittorrent download.

[beachlass]

I've been horribly motion sick watching (Avatar, okay? They made me go) 3D sometimes.

But really, what I want to say is: OMG CLINT/NATASHA OTP FOREVER.

Forever. They can be BFFs or in love or deadly assasins just doing their bad ass thing, but I want all the Clint and Natasha.

[princessofgeeks]

I lov e Clint/Natasha. For the record.

[merrily]

I love you for being meh about something, but then going to see it four or five times to make sure. :-)

[ellixis]

I absolutely and totally loved Bruce and the Hulk. I noticed early on how much the actor conveyed with nothing but body language and how skillfully he did it; particularly observable in the scene where Bruce and Tony are first talking aboard Headquarters, you could see Bruce shy, uncertain, withdrawing from everything and everyone, until the moment Tony started talking his language and suddenly this bloom of confidence and comfort which stuttered back to insecurity when he remembered that there were other people in the room.

I just kind of had a little excited dance in my seat when I saw that. It made me ridiculously happy.

[seperis]

Yes yes yes this!

[lilacsigil]

NATASHA!!!

I saw it in 2D because I have serious motion sickness (and yes, this was still enough to set it off) and I'm not game to try out 3D. Also, my girlfriend has poor binocular vision.

[amalthia]

I get migraines from 3D. :( I sort of wish they'd only have 1 theater with the 3D and leave the rest open for everyone else.

[domarzione]

I demanded to be driven miles away from my local (very clean, very good speaker placement, very nice seats) theater because it was only playing in 3D there. Instead, we went to the far less awesome theater miles away because it had 2D digital projection and nothing else.

I did this because I saw both Thor and Captain America in 3D and I find it very distracting. I don't know if it's because the films were not shot for 3D and were converted in post-production or what, but they ended up having totally random things pop into 3D -- f'rex, in Thor, it was the flip of Odin's hair over his collar -- that just drew my eye and my attention away from what was really important.

I have awesomely bad peripheral vision (I fail the field of vision test every time), so I can register motion that's not dead-on, but I can't tell if it's important or not, so I look. I imagine this is probably even worse for someone with something like ADHD.

Clint and Natasha were fabulous and I hope fandom doesn't get caught in its "ewwww, hetsex" hangup and ignore the pairing.

And omg, Mark Ruffalo was amazing as Banner -- he was not a victim, not a woobie, not trapped by The Other Guy into a life he could not enjoy or thrive in. He was so savvy and thoughtful and interesting.

[seperis]

Clint and Natasha were fabulous and I hope fandom doesn't get caught in its "ewwww, hetsex" hangup and ignore the pairing.

So far there are some cute things that are both them and them + team on AO3. I hope for more, more, more.

And omg, Mark Ruffalo was amazing as Banner -- he was not a victim, not a woobie, not trapped by The Other Guy into a life he could not enjoy or thrive in. He was so savvy and thoughtful and interesting.

So very much. The actor hit that one outta the park.

[kickair8p]

I'm Aspergian (not that I think it matters for this) and I haven't had any trouble with the latest round of 3D movies. My eyes are drastically different prescriptions that don't match up easily, so the different-colored-lenses 3D never worked well for me -- this does!

~

[fyrdrakken]

Huh -- I've managed to successfully avoid ever going to a 3D movie, partly due to not going to the theater that often anymore but largely due to living over by a multiplex that's still pushing a lot of 2D. They had Avengers on ten screens for the midnight premiere, six of them 2D.

And I only saw the film the once, and am going to be waiting for the DVD to watch any more (unless I wind up torrenting a pirated copy) -- mainly because even at 2D prices I have other things I'd rather spend the $10 on, but also because I wasn't all that thrilled on my first viewing either. I think my main issues were A) having seen too many of the best bits already in trailers (or GIF sets on Tumblr), B) Joss not shipping what I was shipping, and C) spending the latter part of the movie waiting for it to be confirmed that Coulson wasn't actually dead (because, dude, I'd already read him talking online about being in Iron Man 3 and not wanting to be killed off in Avengers 2, so I quite simply did not believe he'd actually been killed off).

But, yes -- reading all the fic, and having sprung for the Marvel digital subscription I'm trying to find time to be online (and not Tumblring or working or catching up with something else) to be catching up on comics backstory. So far I've managed one evening in the last couple of weeks -- I'm sort of boggled by how much of my computer time Tumblr is eating now.

[tricksterquinn.livejournal.com]

I've only seen it once and so I have many thoughts, but they are not yet valid, but OH MAN NATASHA.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

DUDE I KNOW. NATASHA NATASHA NATASHA. THERE SHOULD BE SONGS WRITTEN ABOUT HER.

[suzvoy.livejournal.com]

BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE

I hate 3D.

HATE.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

BRUCE LOVE YES.

*high fives on 3D*

[reddwarfer.livejournal.com]

Fred's colourblind and 3D gives me migraines--I say that without hyperbole--so, I hate 3D and avoid it whenever possible. I've also never seen a movie made better by it. I've seen movies made stupid by it. The "look at me moving unnaturally and stupidly for the 3D effects, breaking the fourth wall and being irritating" stuff isn't really impressive.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

Something is wrong with how I process images or something, I think. People seem to like, get right into it and I'm still trying to make my eyes focus on something well enough to see it, much less follow the action. God, its' annoying.

[traveller.livejournal.com]

thinky thoughts: I still haven't been able to really articulate mine. I DID love on first viewing, and even more so on second, but I'm not so good at, like, analysis and shit.

THAT SAID, yeah, Bruce and Natasha stole the film, I think. and I'm in the process of plotting out a Natasha/Clint story, which surprised the shit out of me, because I've been shipping Clint with Coulson all spring. WEIRD. but very very good.

I have migraines that are easily triggered by visual things, so I have avoided the new wave of 3D like the plague. I may be missing an experience? but I'd rather not spend the rest of the evening after a movie yarfing my popcorn because I'm in pain. it really worries me that at some point the traditional film experience may no longer be available. :\

[an-sceal.livejournal.com]

I LOATHE 3D movies. I paid mega bucks for the super awesome (ha) 3D IMAX version of Avatar, and had to leave five minutes into the movie, pausing only long enough to vomit twice on my way out of the theatre. Those trash bins in the hallways are MAGICAL. Also, ushers hate me.

This movie managed to do two things I didn't think possible- 1)Make me like the Hulk, and 2)Make me like Mark Ruffalo.

[an-kayoh.livejournal.com]

I paid mega bucks for the super awesome (ha) 3D IMAX version of Avatar, and had to leave five minutes into the movie, pausing only long enough to vomit twice on my way out of the theatre.

This is me. My dad and I went on a lark and he ended up having to haul my ass back out to the front for a refund. Thinking about it makes me ill.

[viggofest.livejournal.com]

As I think EW said, the movie finally figured out how to "do" The Hulk in a movie--make him NOT the main character. That one line of Bruce's near the end ("The secret is that I'm ALWAYS angry") was really well done.

Go ahead, it's Friday, lick the container!

[sienamystic.livejournal.com]

I've never actually seen a movie at the theater in 3D - I refuse. I know I'd get motion sick and yarfing in the middle of a theater is frowned upon.

I endorse your Bruce and Natasha thoughts. Strongly.

ETA: either I saw the use of "yarfing" earlier and subconsciously went with it, or we both picked the identical funny term for vomit. Heh.

[eretria.livejournal.com]

I despise 3D as well. For one, the glasses are incredibly annoying when you're already wearing glasses. I have fairly heavy glasses to begin with, since I've got such a high negative dioptre number, so the damn things add weight and keep slipping. It's both aggravating and uncomfortable.

Also, I don't really see how it enhances the movie. Whenever possible, I try to avoid 3D, but with the Avengers, there was no escaping it (no 2D showing any-bloody-where), which ultimately led, for me, to not being able to enjoy the movie as much as I would have thought I would.
So, long comment short: I'm with you. It's annoying. Do. Not. Want.

[meine-liebe.livejournal.com]

there's a reason i don't watch avenger in 3D. it distract me and nothing good can be said about 3D glasses. they. are. annoying. Luckily they have Avenger in 2D here

Natasha has MOVES, like UNF move your body, girl~moves. I love her interaction with clint (yes, I do ship em now, and I don't normally ship het). and her fake-cry to loki, and trying to calm Hulk~~ I'm happy she has some awesome screen time.

....i also ship bruce x tony. they're speaking ENGLISH! #lovesGEEKs

... but this is just movie-verse talking i think XD

[elethe.livejournal.com]

Bruce was fantastic.

I saw it in 2D at the cinema. There was no need for 3D at all - there never is!