Just posting to say, Child, after irritating me about my warnings on going to certain sites, was finally given a deeply vicious, verbal, explicit description of goatse while I hovered the mouse over the image file and waited for him to break.

He's still in the closet. Quite literally, even.

Me: 1, Child: 0

Game on.
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From: [identity profile] dimestore-romeo.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 05:44 pm (UTC)
MY EYES!

*goes to hide in the closet too*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 05:48 pm (UTC)
*Grins* I am immune after being ambushed with it so many times. Not that there isn't more out there to traumatize me. *shivers* He'll find it, of course.

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From: [identity profile] unrund.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 05:49 pm (UTC)
Two days online, first time in a chat and yes, I did click that link.

Oh God, I need to call me therapist ....

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 05:51 pm (UTC)
It's better to get it over with before the build of horrified anticipation, to be honest, like pulling off a bandaid. Then you can breathe again. And there's so much worse.

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From: [identity profile] amore-di-libri.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:09 pm (UTC)
HAHAHAHA! You can't see me but I'm currently laughing my head off AND giving you a thumbs up. I wish my parents had done that for me. That way I wouldn't have gotten to college with no idea what pornography, . . . then paid dearly for that ignorance with exposure to sites and memes like that. Because college guys can be absolute jockstraps and douches.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:34 pm (UTC)
This. I had to find out the really old fashioned way; stealing romance novels and searching the house for hidden stores of Hustler and Penthouse. College and the internet was like revelation.

From: [identity profile] hollyxu.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:09 pm (UTC)
YOU ARE A CRUEL MOTHER. (Given that I had to have a friend explain the birds and bees to me at age 14, I'm not sure my mom's methods are better, but, uh, goatse as a starter?)

*takes refuge*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:35 pm (UTC)
I've been doing his sex ed since he was old enough to understand complete sentences. He's about the right age to get through most internet-security programs I can get, so it's easier to give visual evidence of why he shouldn't go some places yet. It's less tempting when you know your mom has not only already seen it, she will laugh at you forever and ever.

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From: [identity profile] tricksterquinn.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:14 pm (UTC)
*dies*

A++ parenting, my dear!

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:36 pm (UTC)
He's thirteen; I've been prepping for this pretty much all his life. Luckily, fandom has given me so many useful weapons.

From: [identity profile] cadencecascade.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:20 pm (UTC)
gaaaaa. (I had to google it, btw). My innocence (what there was left) is gone.

Mind you, my parents didn't bother explaining sex (or indeed what a Menstrual Period was, or that one might start Bleeding From Places Blood Had Not Ever Previously Come) until I started my first period and had to tell my mom I was bleeding in my underwear.
They didn't explain it well, either. I knew more than they did and I was only 11 at the time. 11 with no internet access even.

(K. hitting the "post" button before I give you (any) more details than you wanted to know...)

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:39 pm (UTC)
GOD. That! They explained at school about everything around periods without ever like, explaining what they were. I walked out of there so confused before mine started and I had context.

My mom was like "You could have asked me?" But seriously, I couldn't even figure out enough of what was going on to ask.

Child was prepped on that one, too. You know, just in case.

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beware the internets

From: [identity profile] greyhat.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:20 pm (UTC)
I totally approve. Thank you for a great story.

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From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:41 pm (UTC)
He'll hit the pron and SASS and the other places soon enough, and it's not like I have any hope of doing more than slowing it by making sure he knows why he shouldn't go there quite yet. The mystique factor would have seriously worked against me in that, and he plays enough online games that someone is going to link him eventually. Now he knows why he shouldn't go there yet.
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From: [identity profile] deadlychameleon.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:29 pm (UTC)
You know. There have actually been STUDIES showing that it's worse having long download times for disturbing/anxiety provoking images. They measured heart rate and everything.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:42 pm (UTC)
This is true. Though there is also this. The sheer anticipatory dread after hearing about it for so long does take the worst of the edge off by the time you do see. Goatse startled me, but it really didn't do much worse; I'd heard so much about it that it was like, oh. Well. That's--strange.

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From: [identity profile] cpt-untouchable.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 06:55 pm (UTC)
Your parenting makes me all ... *chin-hands*

♥ ♥ ♥

From: [identity profile] cat-77.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 07:04 pm (UTC)
Hee! We did something similar but not quite as shocking to Eldest (now 12, then about 10). He kept trying to read over both E and I's shoulders while we'd be reading fic and looking up stuff online. We started pulling up extremely graphic fic and images and he ran away and left us alone. I'm not sure if it was that, or E pulling up all the spam mail with images of penis enlargement and explaining to him in detail what it meant that has kept him away for the past two years. *g*

From: [identity profile] airglowsgold.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 07:13 pm (UTC)
i'm not sure how old he is, but i'm pretty sure if someone had sat me down and explained to me the horror that was goatse, i would have been a lot less exploratory and a lot more terrified when i found it at the age of 13. it's like pulling off a band-aid! *heart-eyes your parenting*

From: [identity profile] damietta.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 07:13 pm (UTC)
I can't even imagine parenting in this day and age. But, of course my grandparents said the same thing to MY parents when I was young.

Stay strong, Mom, stay strong.

From: [identity profile] kathgrr.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 07:48 pm (UTC)
wow, I had to google it and I've been online since '92..I feel lucky. very lucky.

And man... poor child. but well deserved. Is he still hiding?

From: [identity profile] anitac588.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 07:52 pm (UTC)
Thank you for educating me about goatse.

From: [identity profile] ella-bane.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 07:56 pm (UTC)
Oh, good one. Mine are still young, the oldest is 8, but I can see that time coming soon. :D

From: [identity profile] ellixis.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 08:18 pm (UTC)
I applaud your method! Goatse was what taught me not to click links if I didn't know what they were, and that no, I didn't really need to go see other shock sites to satisfy my curiosity.

From: [identity profile] nianeyna.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 08:18 pm (UTC)
lol I have no idea what that is (and after reading the comments I'm not sure I want to know, O.o). It's interesting you should bring this up now, though, because on one of my comms I'm in the middle of a conversation/polite debate about whether it's better to educate kids about sex and porn and, like, why it's a bad idea to go on certain sites, as you put it, or to try to keep them from ever finding out about it in an attempt to protect them. You can probably tell I think the first option is better - the second one, besides being, I think, sort of insulting towards kids' ability to know what they do and don't want to see, is doomed to failure especially in this age of the internet.

Basically wow, strange coincidence there, and also I think your parenting skills are awesome. :D

Drive by!

From: [identity profile] hollyxu.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-14 02:58 am (UTC)
As someone whose parents did that whole 'Sex? What sex?' thing, I do not recommend it. Aside from not getting any jokes, I shudder to think what could have happened I had not been cripplingly shy and in an all-girls' school.

Though once my friends figured out what was going on, they gave me the talk.
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From: [personal profile] kernezelda Date: 2010-03-13 08:19 pm (UTC)
Agh! That looks so painful. *shudders and backspaces fast*
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From: [identity profile] mremre.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 08:31 pm (UTC)
I will embrace my ignorance and not google goatse. not! not! not!

Child is going to be the coolest kid ever.

From: [identity profile] lurkerlynne.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-14 06:45 am (UTC)
Unless you're the type that enjoys watching extremely graphic horror movies, no, you really don't want to. this is one instance where the imagination cannot live up to real life.
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From: [identity profile] transtempts.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 09:23 pm (UTC)
*is laughing*

My parents gave me lots of matter of fact talks, starting EARLY..*was so young the first time...memory is slightly hazy*

They believe in being honest, and detailed. And of course, my father is the type to give repeat lectures on certain topics. *grins*

OH CHILD.
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From: [identity profile] ineptshieldmaid.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 10:14 pm (UTC)
Oh, that is a BRILLIANT technique!

If I ever end up with the care of children, I'm following your lead...

From: [identity profile] lincolnkw.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-13 11:47 pm (UTC)
brilliant.

My parents waited until I was that almost that age, my brother and I had already "researched" on our own the particulars for sex ed. My mom still tells the story of that specific conversation - mostly due to the fact that my older sister fell off of the couch laughing when I corrected some factual errors my mom gave us.

Something to do with the need for lubrication to make certain sex acts more pleasant for the various participants or some such.

Needless to say she was NOT surprised when I came out.

From: [identity profile] droolfangrrl.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-14 03:19 am (UTC)
Well today, I had to ask my 15 year old son, "Do you know the meaning of that word?" He was saying "bugger"

And I explained that it meant anal sex, aka to penetrate someone anally. :D

From: [identity profile] fanofall.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-14 04:31 am (UTC)
Oh, my God, that is the next thing I'm trying. You are a GENIUS.

From: [identity profile] isoldam.livejournal.com Date: 2010-03-14 06:51 am (UTC)
I had no idea what goatse was and looked it up. I'll just be in the closet.

I feel a little sorry for kids now days, with their instant access to porn. I didn't know what porn was until I was 16 (straight laced parents) and had to search the library endlessly to find dirty books. That's how I found "Lady Chatterley's Lover", "Lolita", "The Color Purple", "Leaves of Grass" and a lot of other great books.
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