Shame is for the weak, or, how I realized I had become invested in Pinto RPS to an extent I was not aware of until I realized I was searching the kink meme for a distressingly specific kind of kink and not finding nearly enough of it and becoming bitter.

Then I read something else and all became clear.



[livejournal.com profile] amireal

amireal: I kind of want to print that story out and burn it now.
seperis: wait, we are talking about the same fic?
seperis: *checking*
amireal: the one you linked
seperis: With Chris not converted by the awesome of Zach's cock?
amireal: yes
seperis: BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS REALISTIC
seperis: YES I AM SAYING THIS ABOUT FUCKING RPS.
seperis: BUT ZACK FUCKED HIS ASS OFF AND MY GOD
amireal: well, realism or not, that summation 2 paragraphs at the end was just shitty writing
seperis:CONVERT HIM
amireal: BURN IT
seperis: *BITTER*

[livejournal.com profile] winterlive

seperis: Zach could convert eveyrone
seperis: AND CHRIS GOT IT GOOD
winterlive: and the real true and honest facts of the situation are that if zachary quinto fucks you in the ass, you will let him do it again as often as he likes and that's how it is
seperis: This is truth.
winterlive: you can quote me on that
seperis: I really feel it would be part of my development as a human to post this convo.
seperis: Just so I can remember the betrayal I felt
winterlive: you may
winterlive: this is what i'm telling you.

[livejournal.com profile] svmadelyn

svmadelyn: *sighs sadly*
svmadelyn: you'd have to be dead not to undergo that conversion.



I feel betrayed, trufax. I am going to go cry into some sort of cushion and wonder about tinhatism. I could totally go this way. I blame [livejournal.com profile] winterlive.

From: [identity profile] amireal.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 05:52 am (UTC)
Dude, I still kind of hate you for making me read that. *finds the firepot for the ritual burning*

From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 05:54 am (UTC)
see, i didn't let her do that.

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From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:06 am (UTC)
Oh please, you have made me read much worse.

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From: [identity profile] boggit.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:00 am (UTC)
Well shit. Now I'm terrified to go read *any* Pinto RPS because I hate when a fic is working its way up to a happy and smutty ending and then it stabs you in the face with a fork.

Also, posting your conversations helps us all in our development.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:06 am (UTC)
I feel I have done a public service.

Don't worry. IT WAS ONLY THE ONE. THE ONE THAT BETRAYED ME FOR SO MANY WORDS.

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From: [identity profile] elandrialore.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:00 am (UTC)
If it's the same fic I'm thinking of then YES TO ALL OF THAT! Because that wasn't realistic, that was like blasphemy or something.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:07 am (UTC)
It took something beautiful and hilarious and very strange at least in one part and made it all wrong.

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From: [identity profile] aubergineautumn.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:15 am (UTC)
THIS IS KARMA for when you wrote the Lex/Chloe presidential adultery fic that killed the SV fandom. *still bitter*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:22 am (UTC)
It did not kill the SV fandom! THEY GOT BACK TOGETHER EVENTUALLY!

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From: [identity profile] starsparkle333.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:22 am (UTC)
YES TO EVERYTHING BEING SAID ABOVE ME. Everything was going along so smoothly... towards the only LOGICAL conclusion. And then 2 paragraphs where nothing made sense. The end.

*woe*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:26 am (UTC)
I BELIEVE IT MUST HAVE BEEN A BAD DREAM. NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE.

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From: [identity profile] animegirl0087.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:50 am (UTC)
Dude, if it's the fic I think you're talking about, I completely agree with you. It was just a build up of Pinto then at the end NOTHING!!! It made me go HUH out loud and WTF's sort of circled in my head for a couple of minutes after that cause I couldn't believe that THEY ENDED UP LIKE THAT AND NOT TOGETHER. I'm still sad after reading it. ):

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 06:55 am (UTC)
I'm going with hallucination? Totally.

*desperate*

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From: [identity profile] lexstar29.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 08:29 am (UTC)
The bad thing is I know *exactly* which story you're talking about here and I completely agree! It keeps popping into my head with the wrongness!

From: [identity profile] starcrossedgirl.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 08:45 am (UTC)
*is very, very glad she is in the shiny Shatnoy corner of Trek RPF fandom at the moment, where nothing like this could happen, EVER*

For we have everlasting gay love depite numerous marriages that culminates in over-40-years-old relationship smushiness of awesome. Also, De's turtle tortoise TURTLE, damnit!

Join us on the dark side, our cookies are delicious!

:P

From: [identity profile] not-sally.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 09:34 am (UTC)
The best thing about this post is the title.
Oh fandom can be such a fickle bitch...








Anyway, I believe in the power of ZQ's magical cock, and no one can convince me otherwise.

From: [identity profile] ionaonie.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 10:08 am (UTC)
I - thankfully - have no idea which fic you're talking about but, getting the gist of what the fic was saying, I have to agree with [livejournal.com profile] svmadelyn - you'd have to be dead not to undergo that conversion.

Now I have to go and find some really awesome Pinto. You so got me in the mood for some.

From: [identity profile] rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 11:49 am (UTC)
I feel the outrage.

I want my fake r/l stories to be REALISTIC. No way CP resists or if he does, then ZQ seduces him into filming many sequels until the conversion takes.

P.S. Love your fic.
ext_3270: Animated LiveJournal Because... (ST: Eyes Up Commander)

From: [identity profile] sorchasilver.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 12:04 pm (UTC)
The best thing about this is that was able to identify the fic in question WITHOUT HAVING READ IT! I went and checked. Now I am very glad I didn't read.
kernezelda: (star trek tos kirk and spock hands)

From: [personal profile] kernezelda Date: 2009-07-13 12:26 pm (UTC)
Oh, my God. You are killing me. You and your coterie of clever and tricksy comrades.

*dies*

From: [identity profile] alita-b-angel.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 12:57 pm (UTC)
HAHAHA. *shameface*

I know EXACTLY what fic you're talking about. I was mostly entertained by the whole concept of that fic. And then they got to the end, and it was all WHAT KIND OF IDEALISTIC WONDERLAND WITHOUT BACKLASH AND CONTINUED BUTTSECKS DO YOU LIVE IN?!

... oh that's right, one where an amateur porn video is the next logical jump in decision making.

Then again, that fic didn't screw my head as much as This one did (http://community.livejournal.com/pinto_fic/103883.html). Reading it is an experience of acknowledging that one day, you're going to the special hell for different kinds of wrong.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 01:20 pm (UTC)
I couldn't get through that. I got freaked out by the dawning realizatoin it would not get better.

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aurora: (StarTrek ZQ-CP Moribund!?)

From: [personal profile] aurora Date: 2009-07-13 01:28 pm (UTC)
winterlive: and the real true and honest facts of the situation are that if zachary quinto fucks you in the ass, you will let him do it again as often as he likes and that's how it is
:D :D :D :D :D


Also, I still have to through the latest kink meme entries, but omg where it that fic??

From: [identity profile] shaun84.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 01:35 pm (UTC)
serious talk, can someone link me that fic??

From: [identity profile] cobweb-diamond.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 04:09 pm (UTC)
I have to give you kudos for having a sound grasp of reality, and svmadelyn for using the word "undergo" in such an awesome context.

From: [identity profile] askmehow.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 09:22 pm (UTC)
This sounds epic - epically bad, but still. Which fic is this? Part of me wants to take your advice and avoid it ruthlessly, but a larger part of me just wants to know!

From: [identity profile] lazulisong.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 11:41 pm (UTC)
I don't know, I might actually ask ZQ to fuck me twice just to be sure I was really converted.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-13 11:44 pm (UTC)
You could start a religion with those words.
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From: [identity profile] zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-14 12:40 am (UTC)
tell me you're sending that in to the zach facts tumblr. Please.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-14 01:16 am (UTC)
What is the facts tumblr?

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From: [identity profile] formerlydf.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-14 12:53 am (UTC)
I sincerely do not believe that there is any universe out there where Zach Quinto could have sex with Chris Pine and Chris would not want to do it again and again for the rest of their lives. And afterlives, too. This is what happens. You have smokin' hot sex with Zach Quinto, and boom, there you are a hundred years later having strange, glowy-Ascended-tentacle sex.

Er. I think that got away from me a little.

But seriously. I can potentially believe in some universes where they never have sex and thus Chris never gets it, but any universe where they do? You name the universe, and those two are still going at it. In the universe where everybody is a strangely sentient form of seaweed, Chris!weed and Zach!weed are cross-pollinating each other like crazy.

...Right. Um. Sorry about that. I'm going to go back to the corner I delurked out of, and I think I'm just going to stay there for a while? *waves hand vaguely*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-14 01:17 am (UTC)
*giggling helplessly* You are speaking truth man.

ut seriously. I can potentially believe in some universes where they never have sex and thus Chris never gets it, but any universe where they do? You name the universe, and those two are still going at it. In the universe where everybody is a strangely sentient form of seaweed, Chris!weed and Zach!weed are cross-pollinating each other like crazy.

...that is so fantastic. I totally friend for that.

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ext_48929: (Zach & Chris - :D)

From: [identity profile] eternalblue.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-14 04:25 am (UTC)
That sounds vaguely familiar to me. I'm pretty sure I skimmed through that fic and then promptly attempted to purge the memory of it from my head.

I wouldn't mind a message if you don't want to reply here with the link to the fic so I can see if it's the one I think it is. Link me?

From: [identity profile] southpaw526.livejournal.com Date: 2009-07-15 04:36 am (UTC)
I know exactly the fic you speak of, and while reading it, I actually made sure I hadn't, y'know, accidentally jumped to another story at the end. Because... Buh? It made NO sense. Not just the non-conversion, but how blase it was.

Meh.

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