I see I need to screen my reading in x-men

Right. I--knew this? Kind of.

ETA: Whoo, totally missed this, I apologize. This may be triggering for disability issues. No one's complained yet, but they'd certainly have the right to.



Disability as Very Valuable Life Lesson or Punishment For Not Being Nicer to Erik and Raven is seriously making me edgy. Before you ask, kink-meme, though some of the comments I've read in my journals are edging into that territory. Exploration of disability, yeah, but--seriously, if you are arguing Charles got shot in the back by his BFF deflecting bullets that were supposed to stop the BFF from committing mass murder was like 'a valuable Othering lesson'--yeah, let's not? Disability as Punishment and Disability as Important Comeuppance and Disability as Universal Balance for Character Flaw--

Okay, honestly, I am not clinically depressed because in early childhood I was like, too happy in the face of universal suffering or something.

God, I have an awful feeling we are going to get a seventy K story about How Charles Realizes He Totally Deserved Being Shot Because He Was Not Understanding Enough. With like, groveling. God I hate groveling.

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[everysecondtuesday]

Disability as Very Valuable Life Lesson or Punishment For Not Being Nicer to Erik and Raven is seriously making me edgy.
Yeah, I know exactly what you are talking about. :|

[seperis]

I was pleasantly surprised it wasn't the very first story, I'll be honest.

[aivilo_18]

::eyeroll::

Really? That's what people are taking away from this movie? That's depressing. And yet I'm not surprised that there are people hightailing it in that direction.

[seperis]

I honestly kind of saw it coming, but most are subtle. And most took the more obvious "CHARLES IS TOTALY RESPONSIBLE FOR ERIK WANTING TO COMMIT MASS MURDER" so I was hoping they'd like, linger on that one for a while. Ridiculous, but less likely to raise my blood pressure.

BTW DID YOU SEE IT?

probably a dumb question but

[zelempa]

wheeeeeere are you finding your fics

(I mean, not that hypothetical one. other ones.)

Re: probably a dumb question but

[seperis]

The kink-memes. kuwdora has links and recs to it and fic there.

[beck_liz]

*sigh* Yeah, I've seen some of that and done my best to either quickly hit the back button or skim quickly past so my head doesn't explode or anything. Look, I'm not going to say Charles is a paragon of virtue or anything, but really? That's what you're going with. Oh, good grief.

[seperis]

Well, that's kind of the point? Virtue has nothing to do with disability at all, so--I'm not even sure why it needs to be stated, tbh.

[green_grrl]

There's a reason I wait for recs lists! (Except for Darwin/Alex, because WTH, there's only two fics. Dammit.)

Thank goodness for Kuwdora!

[seperis]

I saw a lot in kink meme. Like...many.

Darwin fic. Sorry, not sure on that pairing, but Darwin in general.

[nianeyna]

*hides* I haven't seen any of this yet but I am sure it is only a matter of time. sigh.

[akacat]

I have an awful feeling we are going to get a seventy K story about How Charles Realizes He Totally Deserved Being Shot Because He Was Not Understanding Enough.

And he'll think all of it while dragging himself across the sand to safety one excruciating millimeter at a time, passing out every two minutes. (Do you remember that Sentinel fic? I do!)

[seperis]

...why does that sound horrifyingly familiar? I didnt even read Sentinel and I recognize this.

*need paper bag*

[concinnity]

This is why I rely on people like *you* to do my internet filtering for me! \o/ Because that is some fucked up shit you're talking about, and I nevah want to see it.

I...suddenly feel like I should provide you with gifts of appreciation. O_0

[jamethiel]

>:(

Are you reading the fics where Erik carries Charles everywhere? Because that's not totally infantilising AND taking away Charles' autonomy as a paraplegic.

Sometimes I wonder what the fuck is wrong with fandom.

[seperis]

...someone actually filled that prompt? My God.

[traveller.livejournal.com]

oh my actual god.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

*glum* I admit I laid odds it would happen earlier, but it's not like that is saying much.

[suaine.livejournal.com]

Well, you see, at least with depression you already feel like you deserve it and it's all your fault, it's like you're ahead of the curve in disability related guilt tripping!

[seperis.livejournal.com]

*bites lip* It's funny because it's true. I hit the first implication of that one and was like "Oh, my life, thanks. Totally needed that confirmation."

*high-fives*

[tricksterquinn.livejournal.com]

*twitch* I wish I didn't believe you. What the actual fuck.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

Some are trying to be subtle? By some value of subtle, admittedly.

[ionaonie.livejournal.com]

Oh no, they aren't are they?

I was really hoping we could avoid all that.

Now I'm going to have to be really careful when going on the kink meme.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

It wasn't many or anything, but some were--yeah. I kind of back-clicked and ran bravely away.

[crabby-lioness.livejournal.com]

I'm kind of glad I don't even know where the current Marvel kink meme is located.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

There are a couple, and it's not a huge number of stories, just--hit one, back-clicked, went to look for something less enraging.

[lilith20godrich.livejournal.com]

Thank you so much for your posts about this movie. It's very interesting to read.
It's upsetting to see how many people for some reasons blame Charles for his so called privilegies.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

It's been weird on the punishment front. It's like, I'm not really comfortable stating disability or mass murder is his 'fault' and apply punishment, you know?

[hollyxu.livejournal.com]

This is why we can't have nice things, isn't it?

[seperis.livejournal.com]

I am slightly less laissez-faire about wandering through the kink-meme whenever the prompt states 'disability', I'll be honest.

[bkwyrm.livejournal.com]

I know, right? These are the same sort of people who tell me that I got hit by a fucking freight train when I was 15 and had to relearn how to walk......for a reason. To teach me patience, or some such nonsense. I notice none of THESE people have had to relearn how to walk. Fuckers.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

..I know you aren't kidding and I want to smash things. Just. What--how does that seem like a good idea? To even *think*?

*hugs* I'm so sorry. Christ.

[suzvoy.livejournal.com]

What the fuck?

[seperis.livejournal.com]

*hands* I am clinging to there aren't many of them. Most people are focusing on explaining how Charles was responsible for near mass murder, not, you know, paralysis is totes punishment.

...that isn't great to know, either.

[ella404.livejournal.com]

Oh my god that is so fucking gross. People are terrible.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

it was not a great moment, no.

[sistermu.livejournal.com]

Will you tell me what story this is so I can avoid it?

[seperis.livejournal.com]

I think the one I saw most recently was in the second round, since that was where I was looking for updates yesterday, but I can't swear to it. Most, honestly, are the slight fetishization thing, which is--questionable, yeah, but mostly badly worded and not actually malicious.

[bendtothesun.livejournal.com]

D:<

I was so afraid of this happening (actually I'm sort of afraid to commit to First Class as a fandom period because people tend to be embracing Erik's vision as the one true vision and it's a bit like wtf no) I mean I'm not totally surprised it has but I was really hoping we could avoid it because apparently I have faith that people won't be utter idiots.

However if there is groveling I may need to trufax punch something.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

people tend to be embracing Erik's vision as the one true vision

Yeah, I mean, for a dystopian AU, I'm fine with that, but the key word here is "dystopian", not "Really great and true idea!" because--seriously, I just wrote a 'because' like I need to defend anti-genocide feelings.

Short version--have seen this, very twitchy.

I was really hoping we could avoid it because apparently I have faith that people won't be utter idiots.

Yeah. This. So much.

[lolafeist.livejournal.com]

In what I've seen, the mods at this kinkmeme (http://xmen-firstkink.livejournal.com/) are doing a better job gently directing prompters to be not assholes while simultaneously not kinkshaming the shit out of people.

[ladyoflisquill.livejournal.com]

What the actual fuck! I feel like this is echoing that Stargate Universe paraplegic bodyswap/rape fail we've seen before.

[leyenn.livejournal.com]

And here I am working on an Erik-takes-the-bullet AU and worrying that I'm going to marginalize/fetishize/over-egg/handwave/otherwise fuck up the whole disability issue. I'm all for kink equality, but really, people, this kind of assholeishness is FAIL.

[jamesinboots.livejournal.com]

Man, that's fucked up. I didn't realize anyone would even twist things around that way. Ugh. The fact that I'm not even in the fandom and the movie's only been out two weeks and all I've heard is massive fuckery like this is rather alarming...