Wednesday, September 2nd, 2009 08:20 pm
survey!fail catchup
So I have gotten out my temper tantrum and have returned to my usual state of rationality.
If you have no idea what Survey!Fail is, courtesy of
elfwreck, linkspam one, linkspam two and linkspam three will give you a million posts on what is going on, and a lot of them are really fun, and some of them are very technical, and some made me wikipedia and learn about phrenology, which is about skull measurements to determine personality. Which you know, seriously, I don't even know at this point what the hell I am reading, but one day, I am going to go on Jeopardy and kick ass because of the sheer amount of random information I am picking up.
If you want it shorter and in a single layman entry, however, my comm of choice is Unfunny Business, which has like, everything.
So. Two links courtesy of
jonquil:
Neurology For Beginners by
neededalj, who has been critical in debunking a lot of what was going around about what this survey was doing.
Psychology for Beginners by
sabrina_il, which debunks what psychology can do right now and what it can't.
My Random Comments After Reading Five Million Entries or Something Like That
I am still feeling stroppy, so I'm skipping commentary, which luckily, cannot possibly be missed since there's tons of it out there. I just kind of want to, you know, tell a story and not be reminded that in fandom, the act of posting fiction is part of an ongoing realtime study examining why on earth I'm doing such a thing and everything that could possibly, possibly mean.
And you know, I want a pony, too. Give me a few days and I will totally be over it.
If you have no idea what Survey!Fail is, courtesy of
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If you want it shorter and in a single layman entry, however, my comm of choice is Unfunny Business, which has like, everything.
So. Two links courtesy of
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
Neurology For Beginners by
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
Psychology for Beginners by
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
My Random Comments After Reading Five Million Entries or Something Like That
I am still feeling stroppy, so I'm skipping commentary, which luckily, cannot possibly be missed since there's tons of it out there. I just kind of want to, you know, tell a story and not be reminded that in fandom, the act of posting fiction is part of an ongoing realtime study examining why on earth I'm doing such a thing and everything that could possibly, possibly mean.
And you know, I want a pony, too. Give me a few days and I will totally be over it.
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From:yes. exactly. I think that academia has its place, but I also think that academia is the enemy of art. and I do think that fanfiction and its related creative endeavors CAN rise to the level of art. I understand that for everything under the sun there's someone who wants to pick it apart, but I don't have to LIKE that state of affairs.
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From:And to be teleported into a new, fully furnished and paid for house 20 minutes from my new job in Tennessee.
I want this more than a pony.
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From:I also want a pony. Preferably a sparkly one.
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From:I think some people can happily create art with a greater awareness of the meta of creating art, and some people can't. I... have different projects created with different levels of awareness.
I'm surprised at my own reaction to this, and it's not entirely rational, because my flist has tons of acafen and I'm used to knowing they are studying the community they are a part of. When I write, sometimes it's from a meta perspective, and I've never had a problem knowing I had a reason for choosing to do so, because for me it's always a story first. Just sometimes, I add garlic or whatever for seasoning. I think it's that wiht these guys, it was this visible and really unsubtle reminder I'm part of a group of apes for Jane Goddall to study, which is making me hostile.
I am wary of hyperexamining why I love to blow up starships in long, drawn-out firefights is the thing.
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From:I think it was the... de-personification of fandom and individual fans that got Right Up My Nose. Because, y'know. We aren't part of various social and biological groups that have been historically and CURRENTLY disempowered and treated with systemic prejudice. And history isn't important, and neither is treating people well when they say "THIS SHIT IS MESSED UP. YOU HURT ME." *spits*
Sorry. I got rant on your journal *wipes it away*
And you shouldn't hyperexamine the blowing up of starships. I have your answer right here. Because it's AWESOME.
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From:I'm thinking of writing a post just about how scared I'm getting that if anything written by these yahoos sees daylight, it'll cause an increase in skeevy guys at cons just trying to get the fandom girls they've heard are oh so kinky, and about what the implications for college-age female fans openly in anime clubs or otherwise clearly A Fan to people on-campus will be if the scarier male students have heard someone else read a book that said Most Fan Women Have Rape Fantasies.
(And since at least one statement I've read from Ogas stated they were weeding out trick responses, that means they can weed out true responses that don't match Kinky Female Slasher Who Does Pot And Has Regular Rape Fantasies just as easily and no one would ever be able to know if the final data they worked with was the true response set.)
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From:Which is a fancy way of saying, "I don't get the problem." Yes, it was a poorly designed survey, but poorly designed survey are unfortunately quite common in academia. So why all the fireworks over science studying these subjects in the first place?
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From:This goes beyond being merely biased.
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From:Someone answering those sorts of questions should at least get a true answer for "Can this be linked to my online or offline identity by anyone including you, ever?" even if given a somewhat false reason for the survey.
Even if the answer if No, the participant is entitled to know that before answering anything.
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From:I seriously am in love with this.
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From:"TOO BIG!!! IT WILL STEP ON ME!!!"
But sadly doesn't solve a basic problem with having a herbivore in your life.
poop.
lots and lots of it.
*uses her brand spanking new lj icon name of "Brutally Honest" 'cause it seems appropriate.*
hehehe
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From:I am doing meta and I don't even want to. [clutches head] The fail, it hurts me. I don't want to read! And yet I continue to read! And post! And comment!
Help me.
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From:"Linkspam 1" contains everything; I edit to add as I go along. (This'll get added tomorrow or the next day.) However, that one can be a bit overwhelming. Looking at surveyfail tags will get the most recent posts first, and that might be easier for some.
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From:I don't mind having my work examined and discussed in conjunction with looking at various fannish trends. After over twenty years in fandom, I've certainly done enough self-examination and communal observation to have a few theories of my own. However, I've also seen and analyzed enough to know fandom is too diverse for any kind of Grand Unified Theory, and it really pisses me off when people continue to try coming up with one. All that tells me is they're not paying enough attention and certainly aren't qualified to do what they're trying to do, or they'd never try it. It only makes it worse that people putting forth Grand Unified Theories consistently dismiss evidence that conflicts with the theory, rather than adapting the theory (or admitting that no theory is broad enough to address the entirety of fannish experience and thought processes).
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