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Sunday, April 27th, 2008 04:00 pm
mental health is so overrated
Okay, so The Bourne Identity and movie sequels....
The thing is, I get the Man Builds Things and Gets Lots of Pussy (AKA OH JOHN RINGO NO) attraction. Because I get the same soothing feeling from Man Gets Pissed and Blows Up Lots of Shit (and Then Gets the Girl (or Boy)) (I get an equal charge from Woman Gets Pissed and Blows Up Lots of Shit; I could possibly spontaneously re-Kinsey for a female Jason Bourne.) There's a wonderful, gleeful joy in seeing uberconfidence combined with high power weapons and an intrinsic understanding of bodycounts and an almost Mary Sue quality of "I am your god and my, I am pissed right now, so watch me omnipotently fuck your shit up."
It goes beyond sexy. It is like the Steel Magnolias of revenge. Both are overcoming adversity; one just wants to make sure that everyone who was adverse does not get to overcome anything ever again. Really thoroughly.
I think this explains my early fascination with the Bond movies; I mean, don't get me wrong, I loved them all. And I loved Mission: Impossible movies for the same thing. But Bourne has that gleeful joy of vengeance is mine and you are all very stupid; let me educate you that just takes it to the next level. It's nice to have a protangonist both obsessive-compulsive, a little broken, and deeply, deeply hot. Not to mention competence. God. The competence.
Yes, it does not hurt that Matt Damon is one of like, three actors in teh world who can actually convey a range of deep emotion with an eyebrow twitch. Jesus. I always forget watching these predisposes me to want to write lots and lots of revenge fic.
In short. Guh.
Anyone else?
The thing is, I get the Man Builds Things and Gets Lots of Pussy (AKA OH JOHN RINGO NO) attraction. Because I get the same soothing feeling from Man Gets Pissed and Blows Up Lots of Shit (and Then Gets the Girl (or Boy)) (I get an equal charge from Woman Gets Pissed and Blows Up Lots of Shit; I could possibly spontaneously re-Kinsey for a female Jason Bourne.) There's a wonderful, gleeful joy in seeing uberconfidence combined with high power weapons and an intrinsic understanding of bodycounts and an almost Mary Sue quality of "I am your god and my, I am pissed right now, so watch me omnipotently fuck your shit up."
It goes beyond sexy. It is like the Steel Magnolias of revenge. Both are overcoming adversity; one just wants to make sure that everyone who was adverse does not get to overcome anything ever again. Really thoroughly.
I think this explains my early fascination with the Bond movies; I mean, don't get me wrong, I loved them all. And I loved Mission: Impossible movies for the same thing. But Bourne has that gleeful joy of vengeance is mine and you are all very stupid; let me educate you that just takes it to the next level. It's nice to have a protangonist both obsessive-compulsive, a little broken, and deeply, deeply hot. Not to mention competence. God. The competence.
Yes, it does not hurt that Matt Damon is one of like, three actors in teh world who can actually convey a range of deep emotion with an eyebrow twitch. Jesus. I always forget watching these predisposes me to want to write lots and lots of revenge fic.
In short. Guh.
Anyone else?
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From:YES.
GOD YES. Guh. Jason Bourne just does things for me.... ;)
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From:It's just. Everything with Bourne is so deeply personal, but take away the pettiness and inject a *lot* of focus, paired with sweet physical power and sheer intelligence. Never say brains isn't sexy, mmm.
(And they're making a fourth movie!)
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omgwantnownownownownow.
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From:And tho the 2nd film isn't my fave, watching it and the 3rd film together? OMFG. Pam Landy > Everyone. Also, it made me 'ship Jason/Nikki, which I didn't think was possible due to the overwhelming OTP-ness of Jason/Marie, yet I believed because the performances were just dead on, and they were lovely and subtextual instead of operatic, and also, after Pam (who is AMDE OF AWESOME), Nikki > Everyone.
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From:Two broke my heart. *Sniffles* I need to see three tonight and see if I get the vibe from Nikki. I did like her in the first one, weirdly enough.
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From:That's why John from The Eye/The Storm as well as from Outcast and Miller's Crossing do wonderful things to my ovaries. God, the competence!
And yes, Matt Damon is hot!
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From:You might laugh at this, but it's one of the reasons I love the Pitch Black/Chronicles of Riddick movies so much. Sure, cheesy sci-fi...but oh, the amazing asskicking!
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From:And double yes on Pitch Black. Badass *awesome*.
(Marks down Hitman and Shooter)
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From:Have yet to see the third-- will put in on my Netflix Q, since I hear good things about it.
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From:(Yes, Marie. Gah. Hurts. So much.)
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From:...yes, I totally go there. Or just, my secret dream of becoming his pet hacker or something. It's very sick and delicious. I am so going to hell.
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From:YES EXACTLY. Using my Ronon and Teyla will kick your ass icon.
I generally avoid big blockbuster movies (and movies in general) but I absolutely adore the first Bourne movie, and liked the second quite a lot. Haven't seen the third, but Jason/Marie = ♥
And genderfuck Bourne? Would be more awesome than words can say. Dooo iiiit!
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From:Actaully, it would be intersting. *mulls*
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From:If I have a kink, it's people being competent. I will root for the bad guy if he knows what he's doing and doesn't start being stupid. (Not that that happens often.) Unless the hero is equally intelligent and kick-ass.
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From:It's like, wow, beautiful and yes, it helps that unlike many Bourne doesn't try to be genteel about it, when he's not blowing shit up, and wow can Matt Damon genuinely act.
It's like a conflagration of awesome :)
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From:And hell yes. Bourne's chilly straight-to-the-throat is like--guh. Guh.
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From:I thought they dropped the ball a bit with the flashbacks to his conditioning/inauguration into the program (the book felt more intense than what played out on screen), but the overall update was pretty spectacular (particularly given how dependent it was on the politics of the late 70's/early 80's, and how much that's changed).
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From:Sigh, I really do need to get around to renting the two sequels for Bourne, don't I?
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From:Yes, with the uber competence. But what I love about that is they never have Bourne fuck up just to get him into trouble and move the plot along. He's still challenged, because he's working against these huge agencies with deep pockets that are everywhere. So there's still tension every second, but it's never purchased with Bourne's stupidity.
And they always have an emotional plot. There's always his quest for his identity and the ramifications of who he is and what he's done, but on a smaller level they do a good job, too. He gets tired and hurt, and he's so worn down by everything by the third movie. Damon does such a great job with that--giving us a super soldier who's still human and frail in the ways humans are.
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From:Guuuuuuuuuuuuuh, I know! I love him being all smart and competent and omg the fight scenes. Especially that one in the third movie, in um, Algiers? Where they trashed the entire apartment? Beyond hot.
I love the Bourne movies with the id-part of my brain. (Although it took me a while to finally watch the second one because omg they killed Marie :(( :(()
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From:Though that is really just my being weak. But you make such a good case for it! Besides, Matt fucking Damon. Okay, so he is my real weakness.
Let's just say, I totally agree with the Guh.
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From:And competence is so my buzzword of awesomeness.
Also, in the Girls With Guns category, I nominate Samantha Caine, aka Charly Baltimore, from The Long Kiss Goodbye (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116908/), played by Geena Davis. There are guns and explosions and stone cold killer-ness and amnesia and also kickass mom-ness and Samuel L Jackson and The Windmill Of Death and jackknifing semi's and much else with the Big Booms of Glee. And revenge. And sticking it to the man. And and and... This is - she is - a thing of beauty and a joy forever - I do not know why she/the movie is not celebrated with story and song along with Bourne and McClane and their lesser brethren.
ps ... fourth movie?!? *glee*
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From:Start there. *sad* I am so suggestible.
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From:ate the t-shirtwrote the fanfic.So, generally, yes.
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From:*perks up*
Yes, I am shallow like that.*g*
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