seperis | argh, universe. argh.

So there's a livejournal content strike approaching.

I'm not participating--if I do, it'll be literally because I fell asleep or died or something--but the mass mocking of the concept got my back up.

There's this thing--crazy, I know. You can save whales, work on world peace, and care about livejournal! Really. You can. It's one of the many uses of higher brain function. It's like keeping several tabbed webpages open all at the same time! Yes, we live in a world where you can, in fact, walk and chew gum. And even listen to your ipod.

I mean--okay, on one hand, yes, I'm not entirely sure it will help. But dear God, it won't actually injure you in any way for people you do not know and do not care about, have never seen, and possibly will never interact with, to, you know, do something you don't do, don't want to do, and will not affect your livejournal life.

I think this comes back to that entire unnamed law of comparison. It is not and probably will never be a choice we have been worrying about entropy and worrying about the fate of livejournal and worrying if that beef from Happy Sam's China Kitchen was supposed to taste like that. Seriously. I mean, personally, I can worry about it all and then worry about the state of my skin (oddly dry, in case you are curious).

This doesn't refer to my flist, since I don't think anyone I've seen has posted about it yet. Or actually, anyone I know. Just a general rant of gah. It's okay if people do things you think are silly and meaningless! Crazy, crazy world.

(Is this emotional enough to be a rant? Maybe insert profanity? Damn! That work?)

I'm not comfortable with the anti-Semitism that's being mixed in this by some fairly vocal groups supporting this. Nothing on the link or in that livejournal specifically, but still. I'd rather go on the side of being overly worried than blow it off, to be honest.

It's okay if people do things you think are silly and meaningless!

How is it that members of FANDOM don't get this? I mean, really, when we spend hour after hour debating the meaning of eye-contact adn writing/reading/squeeing over something that makes the rest of the world collectively roll their eyes, why do people still have the urge to mock others?

Meanwhile, I may unofficially strike -- only because it'll be Easter Saturday (for me) and I'm going to be spending the entire day on a sightseeing tour.

If someone is on lj enough to leave five billion comments on how it doesn't matter and get a life? It starts being really hilarious.

I feel no urge to mock. I just think ... it is of dubious benefit, more correctly termed a boycott, and I'd rather spend the energy on other things more likely to pay off.

Still, sometimes one just needs a chance to yop, and who'm I to say otherwise?

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Yeah, pretty much where I'm at on that too. I just--don't really see benefit from this.

I also think it's a bit pointless, but really, so what. It's peaceful protest that does no harm and gives people an avenue to express their feelings. This sort of thing is the hallmark of a civilised population, however silly the provocation may or may not be.

I'm not comfortable with the anti-Semitism that's being mixed in this by some fairly vocal groups supporting this

I'm way too sleepy to be commenting, but what?

some of the groups that are helping call for/associate seem to be doing it less from a SUP business practice suckiness and more from racism. So--uncomfortable.

Thank you.

God did people conflate the boycott with world peace or something? *groans*

I don't think it will have much effect - if any - but I'll be doing it for the principle of the thing (i.e. yes I pay to host content here so I shouldn't have to worry about being Beacon tracked & I disagree with the end of Basic accounts.)

Some of the comments around LJ and some are like DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO LIVES? It's both annoying and deeply, deeply funny.

I'm sure that I'll participate in this boycott, in that I'll totally forget it exists and just be too lazy to bother going online.

The thing we all have to remember is: lj is composed of people who care too much. That's what we're all about. It's out raison d'etre.

Hee!

On what day is this strike?

Ek, and I deleted that part. Gah. March 21, I think.

sf_drama has a couple of posts referring to it with more detail as well.

:Snerk: Apparently I participated by accident (with the exception of the post I made Friday about why I'd been offline Thursday and would continue to be so Friday).

How are people supposed to know that you are participating in this "strike" versus just really having nothing to say that day? If you post a lot about it beforehand, isn't that like, racking up the LJ miles anyway? It just doesn't seem like it would be that likely to make a real impact to me, but I could be wrong.

*g* Luck?

Yeah, I don't know either.

It's kind of like the folks on fandom_wank who are always all "We will now spend countless hours without end making fun of people who are TOO INVESTED IN FANDOM!" I always say, better to be overinvested in something good than to be overinvested in being bitchy about people who are overinvested in something good!

That said, I'm not sure the idea left the oven fully baked.

No, sadly, this idea was very not baked from what I've read so far. Perhaps one might say, still in dough-like form. *Sighs*

Honestly, and no offense to

seperis, because I know she's gotten involved in them lately, this is how I feel every time

stupid_free and its offshoots get involved in this. I mean, forget the irony of being told how little of a life you have by someone who makes endless snark posts about parenting communities she obviously only belongs to to snark them. They're sitting there endlessly posting about the people they're snarking for endlessly posting. Do they really have that little sense of irony?

edited at: Date: 2008-03-19 06:15 pm (UTC)

*g* That's where I started getting seriously hysterical, because seriously. Yes. Exactly.

And yes. Yes, they do. It's literally frightening.

(Is this emotional enough to be a rant? Maybe insert profanity? Damn! That work?)

You really needed to use an angry, angry or very sad weeping icon. It's just...this post isn't working for me without the right visual aids.

Yeah, I really don't think it's going to do anything, but then again if it makes people feel like they've got a bit of control or ownership over their little piece of cyberspace then it's hardly a terrible crime.

I'm not comfortable with the anti-Semitism that's being mixed in this by some fairly vocal groups supporting this

errh, what?!?! if anything, if there any kind of these anti-semitism folks are going to *help* us, that will soo backfire on everything... insanity on a whole new level.

Um, can you clarify that sentence? I'm not sure what you are saying there.

as i understood, there are antisemitic groups who are supporting those groups, who are against the censoring of the LJ userinfo?
so practically, those antisemitic groups are side by side with some fannish groups, that want to protest against LJs business practices?

Hi, here from

chopchica's link.

I'm organizing the Content Strike. Come read about it at my journal, if you'd like.

I've run into a nasty problem. Many people who are supporting the strike -- mostly Russian-speaking LJers -- are doing so because they are antisemitic.

There are some Russians who say that they hate SUP because one of its directors, Anton Nosik, is Jewish. They are pretty ugly about it, too.

I don't like Nosik's lousy attitude towards his customers. But, as a Jew myself, I find the antisemitism shown towards him to be very frightening.

This is one of those cases of "With friends like these, who needs enemies?"

On the other hand,

seperis has stated pretty well how I feel towards the people who say they're going to post 10 times as much, or who criticize Content Strikers because it's not helping Darfur. Man, I only wish I could help people in Darfur by not posting in LJ! I'd not post every day!

In the meantime, though, I think the Content Strike will be a more effective way of showing customer displeasure than filling the

news posts with cat macros. At least, I hope so.

yes, this is what i meant with my comment!
with such groups siding with those, who want to participate in the strike, thats just going to *hurt* the cause.
(unless i have phrased my comment so confusely, that it wasnt clear what i meant).

So i did not misunderstood that part of seperis's post (the last part with the anti-semitism in it)

on the other , her first part, the larger part, to be honest, i have reread that now three times, i think, as she used so many metaphors that i am unfamiliar with, i was not entirely sure, what she meant, or how she felt about the strike.

now with your explanations, its clearer.
so there is the content strike, and then there are groups, who thinks, its useless waste department time, and to mock those, who want to participate in the content strike, those groups want to post more than unusual.
right?

Yes. Some groups are mocking the Content Strike. One thing they say is that we could worry about something more important, like poverty or disease or the conflict in Darfur.

Simply put,

seperis said that it was possible to worry about LiveJournal and poverty, and that a Content Strike did not hurt the people dying in Darfur. So why are these people mocking the strike?

I think that people will always do whatever they want to do. All I have done is discover that many people want to show LJ that they are unhappy, but don't want to harm LJ. A Content Strike may be a way to do that.

Becky,

I can't imagine how awful it must be to find that part of your support is coming from antisemites. I cannot abide such sentiments even if my heritage is non-Jewish.

I also agree that it is possible to care about LJ and poverty and human rights issues. It's not an either/or issue.

As for the mockers, some people just thrive on doing this. They'd mock anything and everything. The sort that thrive on heckling.

Ignore them, if you can.

because they are idiots ?
they are wasting their so called precious time to mock people that they deem to idiots , because those are caring/wasting time for what LJ is doing ;D

Yes, we live in a world where you can, in fact, walk and chew gum.

Not to come off as all elitist...okay, that ship has sailed anyway: I AM NO SO SURE THIS ASSUMPTION IS TRUE, JENN.

But dear God, it won't actually injure you in any way for people you do not know and do not care about, have never seen, and possibly will never interact with, to, you know, do something you don't do, don't want to do, and will not affect your livejournal life.

Yeah.

And um--anti-Semitism? *alarmed*

I AM NO SO SURE THIS ASSUMPTION IS TRUE, JENN.

You just made me smile.

i'm just...I think it's not a horrible idea...because noone gets hurt. And I also am kinda annoyed by people who do the equivalent of Godwin's law...

but then...the antisemitism just made me cringe and now i'm feeling even more weird about it.

and in the end, i may not be on LJ simply bc my family's home and I have little to no me time!

You could always use this icon, made by

jr_moon.

Antisemitism? Really? I'm glad I've missed those discussions, not that I'm following this too closely, but still.

I don't particularly see a huge benefit to the action (though I'll not be posting on Friday by default because of the joys of Easter weekend familial obligations), but I don't see any harm in it.

Well, I probably won't post or do anything tomorrow anyway, because I'm not what you'd call a frequent poster by any definition (until I decide to do something like I'll be doing in April, when I post one poem per day for national poetry month), but I'm not doing it in solidarity with the strike. And that is because I don't believe that a one day content strike will matter to our new overlords.
Postcards? (http://synecdochic.livejournal.com/203464.html) Sure.
A week-long (or longer) content strike? Sure.
But for one day, I don't think the silence will ring loud enough that they'll hear and pay attention to the message we want to send. I don't object to striking in general (hi, proud union daughter and former union member here), or even in this case in particular; but if you're going to strike, go all the way, not just for one day.
Because who wants to bet that, instead of us leaving teaching them a lesson, our return on Saturday will send the message that we just can't live without them?

Random person, found your journal through some combination of links...

There's this thing--crazy, I know. You can save whales, work on world peace, and care about livejournal! Really. You can. It's one of the many uses of higher brain function. It's like keeping several tabbed webpages open all at the same time! Yes, we live in a world where you can, in fact, walk and chew gum. And even listen to your ipod.

And just had to say I love the analogies. ^_^

I've been amazed at the amount of "but there are bigger/more important things to worry about!" comments I've seen since this thing took off.

The thought I just belatedly had, regarding the mocking of anyone boycotting LJ in particular or anyone doing something activist in general, is that the attacking is coming because the person is feeling guilty for either A) not caring about the cause in question or B) not caring about it enough to perform the supportive action being called for, and so instead of just sitting there and feeling like a self-centered ass (or letting themself appear that way in public) they'd rather attack the cause/action as being stupid and not worth doing. Claiming to be smarter without conceding the moral high ground.

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