Tuesday, February 5th, 2008 09:31 am
mm. daylight
So I came home last night, ate dinner, wrapped up in a blanket to watch tv and woke up at seven ten this morning.
Seriously. I don't even know what's going on with my body these days.
Fannish Quotes
Social Activism and the Internet
Seriously. I don't even know what's going on with my body these days.
Fannish Quotes
Because one day I want a fannish metaquotes community, so until then, I will make my own fun.
Fromeleveninches:
Sure, it was funny the first few times, but I don't get how this trope has managed to last so long. Shouldn't fandom have moved on by now to, say, sex with non-humanoid aliens or weird kinks that make everyone uncomfortable?
--on genderfuck, livejournal
Someone make me a community of fannish metaquotes. Please? I don't want to do it myself, but I would totally be supportive, in that way I will occasionally say I SUPPORT YOU! I would also like to have god like moderator powers and no actual responsibility and tribute. And a pony.
Yeah. One day. It'll totally happen.
Social Activism and the Internet
What's a DDoS the RL equivalent of in the wide and wonderful family of social protest?
It's a funny question for me, because I think most of us kneejerk hate with a kind of ferocity that we don't get from seeing picketers around a store, petshop, church, social protest site, etc. Mostly because all of us gathered in tiny miserable balls at greatestjournal and wrote really sad porn together until the way and the light of Livejournal showered down upon us again. And I was totally on AIM with whoever would talk to me, fighting back tears and, wait, did you ever notice you can have an attack of crying and still communicate clearly and without spitting on anyone?
Hmm. Not what I meant to say. But it's true.
So I was thinking about the flexibility of protest in the real world (sit ins, meetings, protests, hunger strikes (questionable legality?), letter writing, faxing, etc etc etc) and how very little of that is actually possible on the internet.
Now, something else--I have absolutely no cred in this. I am not and never have been mistaken for any kind of social protester. I don't eat veal; I mean, that's it, and only because no one served it. The WGA strike isn't the first time I did a monetary form of supportive protest, but it's probably the one that's lasted the longest, because so many people I care about are directly affected. I was not raised by people with that kind of activism. I have not actually ever been in any kind of meeting room and/or facility in which any group of people planned anything protesting anything at all. I wasn't raised with it as a social norm. I do not internalize any of this. Except so far as to look and wonder what it's like to have this so powerful a part of your identity that you carry it everywhere.
So I guess I'm curious on this, those of you with traditions of activism, who carried signs and marched in protest; how is it translated to the internet? This isn't the worst we can do, any of us; we don't have to hack the pentagon to bring down the internet, and it's all nonviolent at that.
I'm almost sure I'm thinking about this too hard; I take comfort from teh fact someone, somewhere, will doubtless have Social Activism on the Interent as their thesis and then I can just read that. Link plz?
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From:But I've also seen DDoS attack campaigns before, though they never really worked that effectively, like campaigns against airlines who regualrly deport refugees and sometimes these deportations happen to kill the deportees through the use of restraints and such, I remember attempts to crash the airline sites to coincide with demonstrations against that practice, mostly because too few people really participated.
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From:*nods* That makes sense. I'm wondering if the surprise of this one in so many media areas is due to the fact it's not been *used* enough for this before, and oddly, I kind of wonder why it hasn't. If nothing else, I think those following this are becoming a lot more aware of what can be done on the internet other than be an endless source of porn and political commentary. Mostly, we categorize those who cause interrupts of service like this as "bad", but we don't necessarily categorize people who RL protest that way, so--I mean, an interesting thought is that the DDoS may actually become a legitimate form of social protest, not just something hackers do for kicks, because from what I can see, pretty much anyone with some time and the correct software can do it, and in a good size group, do it well.
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From:Also, while I'm sure you can set up software as to not risk being persecuted for eventual damages, it is hard to gauge that risk for non-technical people if you install something that goes beyond manually visiting a website. There is more experience with the risks you take with established forms of protests, and also training for that. I mean, if you are say in a anti-G8 group and decide to participate in say a camp that does blockades, there's workshops how to do that, minimizing the risk to yourself, and training in strategies (personally I've always been too wimpy to participate in things that are likely to get me beat up by police, I have to admit), but even on a lower involvement level, say just a plain protest march, there'll be flyers to with numbers whom to call if you get arrested, how to act, how to organize yourself in groups so that you have witnesses should you be singled out, all this stuff. But who knows what'll happen if they declare you a "cyber terrorist"? there's less precedence.
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From:Actually, I"m not sure *how* you'd picket a particular website. Email taking the place of letter writing campaigns, overloading a bulletin board, faxing, but the physical equivalents aren't as easy to translate over.
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From:and i love the idea :)
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From:I am a child of the internet. I *expect* instant gratification! *grins*
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From:Now, because I'm a sucker for aesthetics, I have to make it pretty. *works*
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From:*BOUNCEBOUNCEBOUNCE*
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From:I have a pretty strong negative reaction to DDoS attacks even when I think the target is a bad one, I agree, and I'm finding it hard to articulate just why I will give real world protests more leeway (though not a huge lot more, actually) -- maybe just because real world protesters are putting something on the line, literally, and because they can't use tech to turn a small group into a problem for millions. But I have class soon and not enough time to think!
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From:It's--hmm. I really don't know, to be honest.
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What's a 'trope'?
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