Tuesday, December 4th, 2007 12:29 pm

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It's not so much the cramps that make me wish to commit acts of random homicide, but the fact that in untold thousands of years we have yet to evolve ourselves right out of this.

Open Letter to My Body:

Seriously. What purpose does the pain have? And yes, I know the biology, but pain is supposed to be warning to the body that something less than kosher is going on--this is kosher--God, am I misappropriating terms here--this is theoretically supposed to happen. It is not new and strange and foreign--it's been almost twenty years, give or take a year or two. You cannot possibly see this as some kind of new event that requires nerve endings to fire out warnings to tell me something's up. The visual and tactile senses are quite aware of what's going on. I do not need the Red Flag of Oh Something Is Happening Oh Pain to figure it out. Thank you, body.

--Seperis, pissed

This, I feel, would be an excellent time to get into a flame war about something stupid.

I have never appreciated mint cookies more than at this moment. I cannot even articulate my appreciation.

On the upside, I get to use the mood cranky and lie in bed and whimper bitterly about my lot in life.

From: [identity profile] amireal.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:33 pm (UTC)
Actually, my sister and her teachers would argue that you're not supposed to be in pain and that modern/western convention for simply accepting it and not looking deeper is deeply annoying and not healthy. It's not that there's something extremely wrong, but that balances and all that jazz are off.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:37 pm (UTC)
That would make sense, considering it's such a regular event that the body has *got* to be adapted to it after all this time.

*still curled in fetal ball*
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From: [identity profile] vickita.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:36 pm (UTC)
I feel your pain, yo.

If men got cramps? There would be walkathons and charitable foundations and ribbon magnets to put on your car. There would be research institutes. There would be 48 hours of extra leave time per month.

I'm just sayin'.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:38 pm (UTC)
No joke.

I am resenting men atm.
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From: [personal profile] kernezelda Date: 2007-12-04 06:41 pm (UTC)
In order to accommodate your desire for a flame war about something stupid, I'm forced to inform you that mint cookies are vile, vile creations of the devil. And should be banned from LJ.

*also waves a red icon in front of your eyes to infuriate and inflame you*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:44 pm (UTC)
Now tell me you like nutella and I will destroy your soul.

...or I might start crying uncontrollably. Seriously. What was evolution thinking?
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From: [personal profile] kernezelda Date: 2007-12-04 06:53 pm (UTC)
If I say don't like Nutella, does that mean the burgeoning flame war is cancelled? *disappointed*

Evolution said, we must separate the wheat from the chaff, and the goats from the sheep, and the women from the men, and lo, there appeared a great sea of blood welling from a fount of the earth. And the men of that country said EWWWWWW, GROSS and returned them into the plains. The women thereof abided, saying, this is the issuance of the earth, our mother, and we must sticketh it out.

And have been stuck with it ever since.

Sucks to be the endurance runners of the race.
edited at: Date: 2007-12-04 06:54 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:55 pm (UTC)
That is totally going on my quote page. I love it.
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From: [personal profile] kernezelda Date: 2007-12-04 07:00 pm (UTC)
:D

From: [identity profile] luthorienne.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:48 pm (UTC)
I realize this isn't the answer to everything, but if you take a muscle relaxant, it should relieve your cramps.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:53 pm (UTC)
I would if I had one. I borrowed a vicadin and for the first time *ever* called my doctor and asked for a painkiller--the overthe counter stuff isn't even leaving a dent in it.

*sighs* The only real consolation is that this doesn't happen often. Just enough to make me twitchy.

From: [identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:50 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I fail to understand this pain thing, too. Especially since, for me? It frequently ends up traveling to my legs as well, making everything I do painful. And for some people it's truly debilitating. Why can't anyone work out something better than freaking acetaminophen?

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:54 pm (UTC)
I get a low grade ache in my legs, but I"m not sure if it's related to the cramping or the fact I spend a lot of time very prone with my legs up during.

I've had friends who were *monthly* taking half-days off or full days because they couldn't get up. I can't even imagine that.

From: [identity profile] cirakaite.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 07:01 pm (UTC)
I got to that point a year or so ago and thought it was normal - until I was hospitalised a couple of months ago, and discovered it was endometriosis. Pain at that level should be looked into. (And if regular OTCs aren't cutting it, and this isn't a one-off that can be explained by poor diet or some change in circumstances, it might be worth getting a check up?)

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 07:09 pm (UTC)
Actually--and this weird that you'd mention it, in a good way, becaues it reminds me--last year when I was hospitalized for pneumonia, they did an ultrasound of my legs because of the fairly constant low grade ache/pain worrying about blood clots--I'd had just enough average air travel per year to make it a worry. They finally put it down to restless leg syndrome, but honestly, it's not consistent enough for me to really think that's the problem and the doctor tends to agree. It has bad days, but they're very rare and usually coincide when I'm otherwise ill (second hospitalization, this last time I was pre-pneumonia), and otherwise, no more than a few times a month.

But now I am googling that word to check it out. Thank you!
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From: [identity profile] deadlychameleon.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 10:03 pm (UTC)
*sigh* could be endometriosis. Could also be fibroids. Or a number of other things. I get my girly bits poked tomorrow. On my birthday. Happy Birthday to me. Ibprofen 800 pretty much killed my cramps, but other people got them even worse than me. The pill got rid of them though, and improved my acne, among other things. In general, long term birth control has made me feel MUCH better about my body in general. There are risks associated with being on it long term, but I may end up dismissing them and staying on it for the next 20 years unless I decide to have children.

From: [identity profile] mecurtin.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 06:57 pm (UTC)
Are they Girl Scouts Thin Mints? Because they *Rule*. And include chocolate, which is vvvimportant.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 07:06 pm (UTC)
Grocery store Christmas one that are *amazing*. Seriously. Almost on the level fo Thin Mints.
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From: [identity profile] vickita.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 11:00 pm (UTC)
You know what's also good? Paul Newman mint-filled Oreo-like cookies, the name of which I do not remember. It might be Newman-Os for all I know. But they're good. Mmmm.

From: [identity profile] cat-77.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 07:09 pm (UTC)
*Sends you virtual chocolate and pain killers and possible chocolate covered pain killers.*

My partner found something called "Health by Chocolate" that has extra anti-oxidants and such and makes you feel high the way it interacts with your hormones - kinda awesome. It's made for cramps, even says so on the little pink wrapper. Probably not the level of cramps you are talking about, but, you know, chocolate never hurt anyone. *nods sagely*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 07:10 pm (UTC)
Indeed. *eats another cookie*

*and hugs, too*

From: (Anonymous) Date: 2007-12-04 07:16 pm (UTC)
Grab a box of the sticky chemical heat pads from the grocery store. I consider it a good month if I don't actually throw up from the pain, but if I remember to grab one of these I can sometimes skip the cramps completely. (of course, like migraine, if you don't take care of the pain before it's bad, it only gets worse)

From: [identity profile] lovelokest.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 07:17 pm (UTC)
*hugs gently* For years I didn't get bad cramps, then the last few years they have been getting worse (it feels like a fist is clenching my utreus, oh, and there are back aches too). I've noticed that the more stressed out and tired I am, the worse my cramps are.

At least my boobs get bigger right before?

From: [identity profile] ladyflowdi.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 07:30 pm (UTC)
Period cramps suck. On the other hand, pre-period cramps are to be accepted as a necessary evil, because oh God, OH GOD, how many times in my life have I been hunky dory and then suddenly -- HELLO, PERIOD. WELCOME. PLEASE SHOWCASE YOURSELF WHEN I HAVE TO GET UP AND SPEAK IN PUBLIC/CANNOT FIND A BATHROOM/AM IN THE MIDDLE OF A THEATER-SEATING CLASS. So yes to pre-period cramps. The actual period cramps can take a hike.

From: [identity profile] ellixis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 07:41 pm (UTC)
Husband-san once asked me, after I had gotten over the stage in which I go all fetal and snarly, what cramps feel like. Well, you know how it feels when your foot cramps up, I said. Take that pain, multiply it a few times, and stick it in your groin.

He got all quiet and thoughtful, and has been satisfyingly attentive during Bad Cramp Time ever since.
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From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken Date: 2007-12-04 07:44 pm (UTC)
My first thought on reading this post was to ask you if you've ever read the Connie Willis story "Even the Queen," about a future society where the advanced medical technology means that no one has a period anymore unless they're in the hippy-dippy earth mother movement who actually have their cycles re-started so they can experience primal womanhood and everyone else thinks they're nuts.

My second thought was to remember the college bio course where the prof pointed out how very easily menstrual cycles stop and noted that women are actually evolved to spend most of their fertile years either pregnant or nursing (under nutritional conditions in which breastfeeding was a valid form of birth control because women weren't getting enough calories to support ovulation as well) and hence the modern-day full-time menstruation is the oddity.

From: [identity profile] shiny-starlight.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-04 07:53 pm (UTC)
I feel your pain, in a literal and figurative sense. The doctor has me on pain killers just a few steps down from morphine every month. The pain is also accompanied by days of nausea and throwing up everything possible (including meds) and me beggin tpo just curl up in bed and die.

Seriously, if men were the child-bearers, the species would have become extinct several millenia ago
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From: [personal profile] ratcreature Date: 2007-12-04 08:09 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it completely sucks. Years into this and I'm still as disgruntled with the whole biological setup than I have been at first. (I once met some women from a group who were all about "celebrating" menstruation, I thought they were kind of crazy...) And I don't even get really bad cramps, though unfortunately they seem to get worse as I get older. Still, sometimes they are completely absent, so why can't they just stay away?

But then I also don't understand why our teeth can't regrow more than one time. There seem a lot of very sensible and yet not too fundamental or complex improvements possible, that I sometimes mourn not living sometime when biotechnology will be further along.

From: [identity profile] burntcopper.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-05 12:11 am (UTC)
full-time menstrual : only happens because we're not continually preggers/breastfeeding and're getting more than enough to eat.

Yeah, nature, that makes *so* much sense, for half the population to spend at least a day curled up in intense pain. We're getting rid of a not-very-big amount of extraneous wall that was just an add-on, not getting rid of something the size of a melon! My fave is that I get shooting pains up my thighs as well.
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NSAIDs, not acetaminophen

From: [personal profile] auroramama Date: 2007-12-05 03:00 am (UTC)
I've had bad cramps each month since I was 13, but my mom was just fine until she neared menopause. Then she apologized to me for the previous ten years of thinking I was making a big fuss about a little discomfort. I never got to experience labor pains -- C-section here -- but I have had a kidney stone, and it wasn't any worse than the worst of my cramps when I couldn't get painkillers.

For me, ibuprofen works much better than acetaminophen or even the codeine-acetaminophen combo they used to give out before the NSAIDs became available. The glossy russet Advil pills with their sugar coating saved me many times, because in a pinch I could take them without water, though I try to take them with food.

But I have no answer to why the same natural process causes negligible discomfort to some and disabling pain to others. I'm more mellow about it since the advent of Advil, and more so due to gratitude that aside from the pain, the whole uterine lining thing worked just like it was supposed to, caught two fertilized eggs, and supported two babies for long enough that they had no serious problems on delivery. There's no correlation, though, as far as I know; I was just lucky.
Advil. Yes. Non-prescription strength if I take it soon enough, otherwise, used to require prescription strength.

From: [identity profile] cellia.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-05 03:22 am (UTC)
Ugh. Cramps suck. Advil is my best friend at that time of month.

If you want some busybody advice: A of mine friend with (previously) horrible cramps has found that the only thing that reduced them reliably was a temporary change in diet. There are many tiny changes she makes for a few days every month, but the one with the biggest impact was cutting caffeine out entirely.
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From: [identity profile] kiezh.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-05 04:31 am (UTC)
I second the recommendation for disposable heating pads; they're the only thing that helps my cramps. I love them.

Hope you feel better soon.
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just wait....

From: [identity profile] springwoof.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-05 06:51 am (UTC)
I've got one word for the further evils your body has in store for you down the road: menopause

From: [identity profile] mad-jaks.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-05 09:03 am (UTC)
the mood cranky
*joins you*

*shares chocolate coated munchies*

From: [identity profile] nikkonikko.livejournal.com Date: 2007-12-09 07:23 am (UTC)
Hi, I came to your journal by way of a friend of a friend's rec for your stories (which I love, btw) but saw this post and I just have to say that Oona (https://www.oonausa.com/index.html) saved me. Saved me. It doesn't get rid of 100% of the pain, but I went from incapacitated and missing work to easily being able to ignore it and smile at clients. I've also found that I have better results with Aleve(sodium naproxen) than Advil or Tylenol.

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