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Everything I Would Say about Miller's Crossing and John by

liviapenn.

Seriously. Seriously. That wasn't psychotic, sociopathic, or insane. Immoral, sketchy, ethically questionable, yes.

Randomly, and separate from Livia's post.

What seems to be overlooked is that Wallace is the least innocent victim here. He kidnapped Jeannie and then McKay. He injected Jeannie with nanites to get them to work on the cure. He did not fall from a magical cloud of innocence to be brutally killed so John could continue getting free access to Rodney's ass and/or satisfy random bloody urges. Wallace injected Jeannie knowing there was no cure. If Jeannie had died, he was a de facto murderer right there--it was premeditated, he did mean harm. And I'm pretty sure that "I didn't mean to kill her with it" isn't going to fly in the face of the fact that at the time there was no cure for the nanite problem.

It was ethically wrong, and probably bad bad bad--but on the other hand. Hmm. On the other hand, I don't see a problem with it at all. I don't have a problem with John killing Kolya when Kolya was going to kill him and his team, or the Genii in The Storm/The Eye who were going to kill teh people of Atlantis, I had very little problem with Ronon killing his commanding officer for fucking them over, I seriously have no issues with the death of random Wraithes at all.

I'm not sure why Wallace gets a special classification when he's as guilty as they are.

And I dont' see how a choice that John makes between the life of Jeannie (and Rodney, the Pegasus galaxy, and maybe all species of life in the universe) and Wallace falls under psychotic.

To me? It feels pretty damn human.

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That's why he goes bad, you know -- all the good people hit him on the head or try to shoot him and constantly mistrust him, while there's this vast cohort of minions saying, We wouldn't hurt you, Lex, and we'll give you power and greatness and oh so much sex...
Wow. That was scary. Lex is like Jesus in the desert.
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Obi-Wan has a sort of desperate, pathetic patience in this movie. You can just see it in his eyes: "My padawan is a psychopath, and no one will believe me; I'm barely keeping him under control and expect to wake up any night now to find him standing over my bed with a knife!"
-- Teague, reviewing "Star Wars: Attack of the Clones"
LJ
Beth: god, why do i have so many beads?
Jenn: Because you are an addict.
Jenn: There are twelve step programs for this.
Beth: i dunno they'd work, might have to go straight for the electroshock.
Jenn: I'm not sure that helps with bead addiction.
Beth: i was thinking more to demagnitize my credit card.
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silverkyst: I need to not be taking molecular genetics.
silverkyst: though, as a sidenote, I did learn how to eviscerate a fruit fly larvae by pulling it's mouth out by it's mouthparts today.
silverkyst: I'm just nowhere near competent in the subject material to be taking it.
Jenn: I'd like to thank you for that image.
-- silverkyst and seperis, on more wtf
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-- cpt_untouchable, on my addition of The Fourth Bunny
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*flat look* I have never been so close to flipping out. But luckily, I had coffee.

...I had coffee *then*.

*hugs* I'm torn between being glad for you that you're managing to remain (reasonably) calm, and wishing you would flip out - because God, some people really need to hear some things. Grrr.

(Can you tell I've now seen enough of the comments in question to have reached critical mass myself? *g*)

And people *wonder* why SGA can be a little stroppy....

*eyes lj entry* Someday. Gah. Need porn.

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