seperis | so can I just label it h/? with ? standing for "pretend there is comfort eventually? Probably?"

Hmm.

So--say you are writing a hurt/comfort. There's hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, more hurt, ooh, psychic hurt and then revenge and you think, right, time for comfort! Comfort! COMFORT AND PORN YAY! Because seriously, what the hell is the point of torture if you can't heal it with sex? Or hell, don't end it with everyone pre-suicidal? Is it that hard?

Strangely, yes, yes it is.

This story is creepy and I'm the one writing it.

Right. Writing trauma. Gah.

I actually prefer this type to the one with drawn out comfort, provided it has a "happy" ending in that there is a possibility at least that the characters will be okay. I happily read a ton of that kind of fic in XF at the Mulder Torture archive.IIRC the genre used to be called hurt/hurt derived from the more common h/c, or simply "torture". In SGA I have seen "whump" for this, though that has sometimes comfort.

Honestly, the happy here is tiny and kind of--*sighs*. I don't know. Though he, hurt/hurt. I like this.

Well, for me the happy doesn't have to be in the story, it just has to leave a tiny potential for it at the end. Basically I just dislike most deathfic or stories where the character ends up permanently brain damaged and the like (or the betrayal kind where one character tortures the other, that I don't go for at all).

Unfortunately I'm somewhat in the minority in my preference for much hurt with little comfort. Much of fandom seems to prefer lots of comfort after only a little hurt, hence the ton of stories where they care for each other through a bout of the flu as if it were a deathbed scenario...

See, this is my problem with most hurt/comfort! The comfort inevitably far, far outweighs the hurt to an often ludicrous and unrealistic degree. Sorry, but when my fiance is sick and miserable I will A) go to the store for him and thereby B) try to make sure he has his comforts and medicine and then I will C) fuck off and leave him alone because he's a real bear when he's sick and I've no interest in dealing with him like that more than is reasonable. Which I have to think is true of most other people, you know?

So I want to hear about the truly terrifying hurts that can happen to our fictional darlings and I want to hear about how they fail to cope and try to comfort each other and fuck it up and care an awful lot but, you know, are dealing with trauma that doesn't heal with lots of snuggles and kisses and warm blankets. Which kind of leaves me in the hurt/hurt realm of things, from what I've read of hurt/comfort.

ah, Mulder torture...
did a few of those myself. *g*

You should make the comfort part so sickeningly sweet that people will say "This story is soooo cute!" and then feel bad about it on account of the pain and torture.

*accusing* You want me to write healing penis sex, don't you?

Healing cocks. <333333333333333

PENIS. IT MAKES IT MORE HILARIOUS.

Hey, now. Brian in QAF has a magical healing penis. In canon, no less!

You are making that up. lalalalalala

*deep breath*

No. *begins to breathe deeply* It's--it's canon.

*slinks away*

HOW??!? Does having sex with him heal Justin from the gaybashing or somethin?

I would never make such a false accusation! I take Brian's penis very seriously!

Maybe you should write the Porny comforting goodness first, and work backwards?
OR, hey...maybe you need to go write some unrelated-to-this-fic porn, to get you in the ~~mood~~ mind-set? (that this has the added bonus of, well, extra porn ficlets? only vaguely intended :P)

edited at: Date: 2007-11-27 07:49 pm (UTC)

I should have thought of that. *sighs*

Would h/h be called just Angst?

In my days of emo teenie blood thirst, I used to read all the anorexia fics that I could find, and imagine my surprise when in one of them, without warning, the angst wictim *died* in the end? Traumatic, or something. So in my oppinion, there must not be comfort after hurt, but some kind of catharsis is a must. So as long as the end isn't "rocks fall, everyone dies", h/h is fine by me ;)

I'd say remove the h/c and just go for angst and let whatever pithy comfort you throw in be a surprise bonus.

If the hurtee is Rodney you have to give him at least a bandaid at the end. If it's John it can be HURT HURT HURT.

Hi I M Ur Eeeevol 2Day.

Hmm.

this fic fits that criteria.

*mulls*

And this was such a surprise -- NOT. I was pretty confident that the one you were hurting was John, because THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. (the one you love, dontcha know.)

To be fair, I emotionally scar Rodney, while John just puts up with the physical abuse. I like to be fair.

Balance y/y?

So, does this mean you're working on the Somewhere-verse? Just kidding, really. (Some wounds will never heal).

Amen, sister reader.

*sends tentative hugs* I swear they work it out eventually. ANd there is porn!

Wait, really? I don't recall you mentioning that before. Oh, goody. As long as it works out in the fictional future, I can fill in the angsty blanks myself.

Well, how about hurt/angst? For the label, I mean.

Which, well, as the LOLcat sez: do not want.

Make them HAPPY at the end. HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY. And snuggly.

Or, you know, don't. Because I don't want to stifle your muse if you're finally writing again. YAY

I KNOW. My muse has been all freaked out since the John to John II move. It's been hard on us all. *nods*

hee I had the exact same problem labelling my story for mcshep awards. If only there were a physical hurt/emotional hurt/more physical hurt/slight bittersweet semi-optimistic ending option!

you're scaring me...

Heh. I like hopeful endings. I mean, it doesn't have to get better, just have the hope of it getting better.

One of my favorite fanfics:

http://yearningvoid.net/julad/freshest.html

:cries: Don't tell me this. I lurker-stalk you from fandom to fandom and literally devour almost anything you post but...

I'm a wuss. I admit it. A big 'ol baby that just *has* to have a happy ending and, going by this description, you're about to post a nice big story that I'm not going to be able to read. This is a total tragedy. (On my part only, of course. I'm sure it will be completely awesome, like everything you write, and those brave people out there with thicker skins will give it the praise I'm sure it will deserve!)

Moria~

Comfort! The sex that heals all wounds. It's okay if Rodney almost died/committed suicide/nearly had his head torn off. Butt secks will make it all better. DOUBLY BETTER IF HE CRIES.

I love you so much.

Magical healing buttsecks. One day, dammit, there will be magical semen if I have to damn well write it myself.

Magical semen that sparkles. I would say unicorns and magical fairies frolic out, but that'd just be tasteless.

Pah. There is no such thing as tasteless!

Committed suicide? What, is he restoring his Katra through his butt? ;-)

*awed*

That is *brilliant*. And an idea whose times has come.

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