On some level, I know it's probably wrong to go back and re-read the svmaria thing from last year. But on the other hand, she's inaugurated her thirty-sixth-ish name recently, and surely that's a record by now for socks?

...please. Tell me that there is not someone with more. Seriously. I get a faint case of indigestion every time someone applies to sv-inquiry and we realize it's another maria.

In other news, I am drinking tea. Paid tuition. Did bank things. Pretended to do work and actually read email whilst learning Great and Terrible Flooding approaches. (no, really. i could totally post my next email from an ark and call it like, the book of jenn in the Even Newer Testament and God, work has to get interesting eventually.)

From: [identity profile] eleveninches.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 05:55 pm (UTC)
I can't believe she's still trying that BS.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:05 pm (UTC)
It's really *freaky*. My Spreadsheet of SVMaria will grow tonight. OTOH, very cheap and fast entertainment, so I cannot judge. Much.

From: [identity profile] justascream.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:04 pm (UTC)
Song lyric for you that I tried to comment with on previous entry but could not due to LIVEJOURNAL IS TRYING TO EAT ME ALIVE...

"If death doesn't get you then life surely will." -- from "Fool's Gold" by Bree Sharp

...it seems to suit a lot of your moments. >_>

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:05 pm (UTC)
*snickers*

LJ is being *difficult* the last few days. *glares at it* Dammit.

From: [identity profile] justascream.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:10 pm (UTC)
I think it realized its members were too sexy for its coding. And self destructed. Instead of catwalking. ...silly LJ.
ratcreature: RatCreature wears many socks, fashioned as puppets: Not a sockpuppet, really. (sockpuppet)

From: [personal profile] ratcreature Date: 2007-07-19 06:18 pm (UTC)
36?!? Seriously? How can she even keep track?

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:28 pm (UTC)
I...no idea. *blank* That's a lot.
ratcreature: RatCreature wears many socks, fashioned as puppets: Not a sockpuppet, really. (sockpuppet)

From: [personal profile] ratcreature Date: 2007-07-19 06:38 pm (UTC)
I actually can't imagine how having that many socks would leave still time to talk to anyone in fandom besides the own sockpuppets...
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From: [personal profile] ender24 Date: 2007-07-19 06:39 pm (UTC)
indigestion ! i had to look this up in a dictionary coz i didn't know it before!
thanks :D

re: maria, my list is surely not as comprehensive as yours and madelyn's but the latest of her socks apparently managed to hide/change the IP, coz for the first time in three month, she has been talking to me again, and said in my LJ entry, that she is not maria *g*, and offered her non-chile IP for proof and that she just moved from spain to tampa, us *g*
oh, and this lovely girl rejected my offer to send her a postcard (which of course, might be a wise thing, since i am not entirely sane myself ;D...)
http://real-lexgirl.livejournal.com/2464.html
http://real-lexgirl.livejournal.com/2645.html

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:43 pm (UTC)
She's very--something there. Nuts does not cover it, really.

*kind of awed*

From: [identity profile] ltlj.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:48 pm (UTC)
I love how her parents apparently don't care that she's on LJ reading SV porn, but a friendly postcard from a girl in Germany is right out. Uh huh.
ender24: (Default)

as we are speaking here...

From: [personal profile] ender24 Date: 2007-07-19 07:23 pm (UTC)
I got a tip of TWO new potential socks of her :D
both are spanish speaking , lalala, the same drill...

she is really a precious something *g*

maybe those will want my postcards ;D

Re: as we are speaking here...

From: [identity profile] lexii314.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 08:04 pm (UTC)
This is annoying!
I started seeing the name pop up here and there. But never imagined it would be her again.
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heee, sv fandom is doing a good deed!

From: [personal profile] ender24 Date: 2007-07-19 08:14 pm (UTC)
by keeping her here, we are saving other fandoms from her special brand of insanity *g*

you always have to see things from the positive side!

From: [identity profile] ltlj.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:44 pm (UTC)
Jesus up a tree. It was sad before the 10-15 sockpuppet stage, but it hit psychotically creepy at around 20.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:46 pm (UTC)
At this point it's like watching a train wreck that never ends. I kind of wonder if she'll ever give up.

From: [identity profile] califmole.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:52 pm (UTC)
Just be glad she hasn't left the Smallville fandom for other pastures... Shudder to think of the whole trainwreck starting again say in SGA, or Supernatural.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 07:06 pm (UTC)
....God.

*faint*

May she never realize there are other fandoms out there.

From: [identity profile] justascream.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 06:59 pm (UTC)
...okay, so, not being in the SV fandom myself, I had no clue what was being spoken of with this "maria" person. So I checked your tag filter on it, read the bit about the bipolarism, and about BROKE A TOOTH from clenching my jaw in annoyance.

Also, "compulsive liar"? Incorrect. Try pathological, kid.

...I just got pissed at someone who makes sockpuppets in a fandom that I know nothing of. Now I'm amused at myself.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 07:06 pm (UTC)
Did you read the fandom_wank report? She's--its just boggling. Seriously so.

http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1029513.html

From: [identity profile] justascream.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 07:30 pm (UTC)
..................holy wow, Batman And Other People Worth Swearing At.
ender24: (Default)

that's a record by now for socks

From: [personal profile] ender24 Date: 2007-07-19 07:26 pm (UTC)
didnt this certain author/person in HP, i forgot her name, had more socks?!?!

the one, who faked to be attacked by some religious group or something?

From: [identity profile] aubergineautumn.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 08:35 pm (UTC)
it's horrible, because her actions impact how I perceive other lj users. Ex: one lj user started going NUTS about svmaria, and I almost defriended them because I was so tired of hearing about it. As soon as they became sane again, they were their usual cheerful self. But they are rabid svmaria haters, and even started learning new, complicated ways of tracing IP addresses because of it. Svmaria really ruins the fandom.
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From: [personal profile] aurora Date: 2007-07-19 10:32 pm (UTC)
Thirty-six!!

She can use a different one every day of the month and still have some to spare. *boggles*
I think the record holder for known sockpuppets is actually held by someone in the Rat Patrol fandom: 600 plus sock puppets that dominated a Yahoo group, pre-LJ. Kathy Agel's posted about the story a couple of times on various lists (FCA-L, Zinelist) and it's quite horrifying in it's scope. The effects were even more dramatic given that Rat Patrol has always been a small(er) fandom.

Excerpt:
"This has happened in Rat Patrol fandom, specifically on the Yahoo Club that existed at the time -- one person created 600 sock puppets and claimed that they were all members of a fan club that had existed since the 60s, the members of which had written thousands of stories that appeared in hundreds of zines, and sponsored a con that drew 2000 attendees and all the cast members. This person used several sock puppets (those that stand out are a doctor in the Israeli Army, who had been smuggled out of Nazi Germany in a coffin; a Native American who worked as a translator; a former member of the Wehrmacht; a psychologist who loved to attack people on the Club and psychoanalyze them in posts to humiliate them) to control other members, mostly people who were new to fandom (those of us who had been in fandom for years were suspicious of her, and rightfully so."

The RP sock puppet fiasco also ended up having a 9/11 connection, with the puppet master claiming that 18 RP fen had been in the WTC and 6 were killed. Lies, of course, and exposed fairly quickly.

You can find one of Kathy's posts from FCA-L with more details here (posted with her permission):
http://amedia.livejournal.com/58962.html
I'm glad someone else mentioned this, because all that stuff is in my fandom bookmarks that I haven't yet sorted out & moved to del.icio.us.

I remember the FCA-L post, and just going -- oh my stars & garters! You know? That was madness.
Yeah, the sheer scope of things was mind boggling and how successful she was at manipulating her inner circle; it really was a textbook case of cult behavior and social control. Amedia's links offer additional info on the train wreck. In particular, one of the inner circle gives a fairly detailed account of how they were manipulated by the puppet master using her fake actor sock puppet as a carrot/stick.

From: [identity profile] fleegull.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-19 11:52 pm (UTC)
I swear, I keep this icon around just for her.

If she could channel all of these personalities she could write a fairly interesting novel.

It would have to be set in an insane asylum of course.

From: [identity profile] claire.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-20 12:44 am (UTC)
Trust me, I have seen individuals with way more than 36 accounts. Of course none of the ones I've seen were particularly sane themselves ;)
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From: [identity profile] deadlychameleon.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-20 01:50 am (UTC)
Man. It's like, she thinks... if she can maintain the facade it'll all be ok, she can start over and her previous actions don't count.

sv inquiry

From: [identity profile] alwayseasy.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-20 10:11 pm (UTC)
I was rotflmao at the story of this very... interesting lady. I suppose it must be annoying and creepy for people who have been dealing with it for a while, but I just couldn't stop giggling at the sheer ridiculousness and nerve of this girl.

I also wanted to find out about the 'sv inquiry' thing that you referred to? What is it? And how would a person go about joining it?

Re: sv inquiry

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-21 05:57 am (UTC)
It's a community for inquiring on anything Smallville story or meta related. [livejournal.com profile] sv_inquiry If you want to join, just click the join link and send me an email. The explanation for why is in the userinfo.

Have fun! I hope you find it interesting.

Re: sv inquiry

From: [identity profile] alwayseasy.livejournal.com Date: 2007-07-21 09:56 am (UTC)
oh EXCELLENT site... I checked it out, and it's precisely what I was looking for. I've been going nuts trying to find working links to a pair of stories that are recommended everywhere, but is nowhere to be found.

heh the fics are also recommended on your fanfiction site, and you should be made aware that the links are not working... the fics are:
(I) Forget by Elizabeth
Safe by Elizabeth

Thanks for the explanation, seperis. I'll go join up now.

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