seperis | in the annals of the weird

What the heck moment.

Every once in a while, I google seperis to see what comes up. As one does. Today, discovered two new things.

One, it shows up in Malaysian messageboards as a non-name.

Two, it shows up in Kurdish messageboards. Again, not as a name.

Okay, I swear, I *made it up*. It's a thing made from Cipris in Melanie Rawn's books. Yet here it is. And I have no idea what it means.

Also, an Egypitan deity, though I have no idea which one.

*blank look*

What if it means "person who eats rabbits"?

*very worried*

P.S. - there's also a programmer out there named Elian Seperis. A *family* of Seperis's. Every time I google, I think, God. I am so sorry, Seperis family.

ETA: Seriously. What if it means rabbit-eater????

ETA 2: Because Ami totaly said I was lying on the Egyptian deity front: http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2761

This is not encouraging.

HAHAHAHAHA

GOD YOU MOCK MY PAIN.

IT COULD BE RABBIT-EATER!

BETTER, IT COULD BE POO MONSTER.

And, apparently, a Croatian cardinal (http://www.xxiamzius.lt/archyvas/xxiamzius/20011221/kriksian.html) (though I believe that's a declension, as his name, if memory serves, was actually Franjo Seper).

I believe I've also seen it as a Greek surname :)

Oh God.

*buries head somewhere*

*snickers*

Well, if it helps any, I think you're safe on the Egyptian front at least. While I'm not an expert, I'm pretty sure that is a typo/mistake. I should think the most popular cult besides Isis' would have been her husband Osiris' and offer as further proof a) studying the import of various foreign cults (including those of Isis and Mithras) and their impact on both the Roman Empire and Christianity in school and never hearing about about a "popular" Egyptian import called Seperis, and b) none of the Egyptian god lists I found (e.g. here (http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/egyptian-mythology.php?_gods-list), here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_gods), and ) include a Seperis. (http://www.ancientegypt.co.uk/gods/explore/main.html)

Obviously it's always risky to rely on online dictionaries when you're totally clueless about a language, but if you look up "rabbit" in a Malay-English dictionary it gives you "amab", and "makan" for "to eat" (and a number of other results apparently there's many different words for whether you eat greedily, gluttonously or just a little, but none look similar to your pseud) and when you do that for Kurdish it gives you "kêvrîşk" for rabbit and "xwarin" or "bixwe" for "to eat" so I think you're save?

Actually, rabbit in Malay is arnab. :)

And that's why I usually have a big default font...

hey, it's okay, you're pretty much searching on handicap anyway. :)

I STILL CALL YOU OUT! IT COULD BE FAKED!

As far as I know, 'Seperis' doesn't mean anything in official Malay. But it could be a slang word that you'll find in the northern states of Malaysia. But I highly doubt it means anything like that, so no worries ;)

*grins* It's surreal as heck.

Thanks!

You know I once thought I totally made up the word Eleusis for an old screename on AOL and it turned out to be the gate to hell in Greek. That was a fairly amusing thing for me to find out.

I am sure it does not mean rabbit eater. In as much as I don't think the Egyptian had rabbits?

Let us hope not. I will not worry. Yet.

Well, if I ever come to Austin, I'll be sure to not shake your hand?

Language freak here. I own 70+ foreign language dictionaries. I know I'm a dork. I did my own googling, found a common phrase "seperis" is used in among Malaysian sentences: "tinggal seperis aku tuk"

Malay dictionary says...
tinggal = (1)to live (2)to leave (3)to stay behind (4)to be left
aku = me, I

Couldn't find a straight sample of "seperis" or "tuk" in dictionaries, but since those appear to be conjugations of other words, these are the nearest matches...

tukang
skilled workman

tukar
to change; to exchange

tukaran
replacement

tukar ganti
to substitute

tukul
a hammer

My guess is it's one of the verbs.

Then "seperis" close ones...

sepah
(1)to chew (of betel leaf) (2)scattered

sepak
(1)to slap (2)to kick

separa
a section only

separuh
half; semi

What does all this mean? Quite possibly nothing! But it was fun! By the way, betel leaves (the only way seperis means you're eating SOMETHING) are a commonly chewed medicinal plant in Asia: stimulant, antiseptic, breath-freshener, aphrodisiac, relief of headaches/arthritis/joint pain, antibiotic, indigestion aide, laxative for constipation, decongestant, aid to lactation, or as just a way to break the ice in an awkward conversation. Hehehehe. Or...if you're in need of a bride in Vietnam...you can get one from the girl's parents in exchange for betel leaves and areca nuts!

tuk is also an shortening of the word 'datuk', which means grandfather ;)

*dies* God. Breathmint.

Thank you!

If it has no other meaning, I think we should start translating it as "a deadly addiction to Twitter".

*is of no help at all*

*eyes you*

Whatever, man. At least no bunnies were harmed in the making of THAT.

I totally made up my name too, and then found out that it wasn't as made up as I thought.

There are some butterfly's named paraka, which there apparently was a Star Trek episode about. :P I also had this random guy named Steve Paraka e-mailing me to ask if we were related :P

I've also found my name in some sort of prayers. Isn't it fun when you find out what some people may interpret you name as?

God, yes. It's *surreal*. *shakes head*

I love it. A Star Trek ep *and* a butterfly *and* prayers. That is totally a jackpot.

I was curious enough to google your name too, and I think I found the messageboard you're referring to. In any case, to be more accurate, the posters in the forum is speaking in Sarawakian slang, so speaking as a West Coast West Malaysian person with no knowledge of street slang of East Malaysians... I cannot help you. :) And the official Malay dictionary is no help either. Neither is further googling and reading, because I cannot parse the context in which the word is used. Though my Sabahan friend thinks it might refer to some mode of transportation.

(ok, now would be a good time for a Sarawakian to jump in and point out the error of my ways. ^^)

(context: Sabah and Sarawak are two states in East Malaysia, part of Borneo; Peninsula Malaysia is also known as West Malaysia, and that would be the part of Malaysia "above Singapore, and below Thailand". :D)

Ooh, thank you! I wondered, when I couldn't find a few of the words on there, if it was slang or shortened forms of words.

I did find this today--no idea how, but I don't think I found it off google.

http://www.pegari.com.my/sepil_iban.htm

But I'm lost on context for most of it. I did, however, learn there are a lot of languages in those areas.

Good find! And it pretty much confirms my and my friend's guess, that it's transportation-related. My grasp on Iban is pretty much 'nil', but I can guess (as it shares linguistic roots with Malay). Anyway, you found a nice little page on Iban grammar and a small bilingual English-Iban section (more accurately it was giving the Iban transliteration of certain English words). And in that section, you can see what 'seperis' means: slang for 'express' as in express buses or express boats etc. (we kept finding the word cropping up in describing jetties and such)

This is fun! :D

(I have no idea why I airquoted 'nil'... ^^;)

Seperis is not an Egyptian god, so you're safe with that! The Graeco-Roman god who is the husband of Isis is Sarapis/Serapis (a combination of Osiris and the Apis-Bull). (I could talk about this for days but won't.) It looks like someone just typed it wrong on the link above.

I *wondered*. I went through, like most kids, a *huge* Egyptian history period, and that deity? Never showed up. It was surreal, especially when linked with Isis.

East Malaysian here, pointed over by

shusu.

The word might be Iban (also the name of a major native race in Sarawak). I think the general language in that forum is street Sarawakian or Bahasa Sarawak - a fusion of Malay and Iban. I recognise some of the words as Malay but I don't know what the rest means.

I don't know what 'seperis' is, but from the context I'm guessing it's an emotion. It could be a variation of "(se)perit" (Malay), which means a feeling of distress or heartbreak. I'll go ask an Iban person at work later.

"tinggal seperis aku tuk" could mean "leaving me [in pain] like this".

In this context:

tinggal = leave
aku = me
tuk = this
seperis = ?

Ergo, there's no eating rabbits. Maybe just torturing them.

Thank you very much! I found this site: http://www.pegari.com.my/sepil_iban.htm

But I didn't have a lot of context for what I was looking at. And honestly, I cannot figure out how I got here. It definitely wasn't off google, but for the life of me, I can't remember how.

Thank you very much.

Hmm. Seperis = distress. That's oddly accurate.

The Iban language ninja at work agrees with the dictionary you found, and that the first thing to come to mind is "express" as in "express boat/bus".

He also stressed that it depends on context. And that the phrase we've been using could also mean "got left behind by the boat".

To update the theory: whatever it is you actually do to rabbits, you do it really fast.

"ETA: Seriously. What if it means rabbit-eater????"

Er...don't tell the rabbits? ;)

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