Tuesday, April 12th, 2005 11:22 pm

shattered and asylum

Yes. I see why these two episodes are definitely something I will never ever watch again.

*munches cookies*

From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 04:31 am (UTC)
*pets you* For me, they were the final nail in the coffin of Annie-leaving-SV-behind.

There were reasons aside from the totally scarring-for-life, but really, I edged away from the canon and haven't looked back. (Well, not to the show. I've read a couple of shorter fics over the last 6-12 months, but that's it.)

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 04:51 am (UTC)
I just. I have no idea how I feel, except shocky. That was way too much.
ext_14312: (it's a big big city)

From: [identity profile] linzeestyle.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 04:34 am (UTC)
Aww. *pets*

I am not ashamed (okay, a little) to admit that one of the first things I ever saw of SV was the last portion of "Asylum" - I didn't even know the characters that well and Clark flipping the switch and inadvertantly frying Lex still traumatized me for days.

:offers you leftover easter candy:

Linzee

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 04:51 am (UTC)
*takes it and stares* People *survived* this?

From: [identity profile] vylit.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 04:35 am (UTC)
But - but don't you love how Clark sticks by Lex is Shattered even though anyone else would think Lex had completely lost it? And Lex crawls across the floor bleeding for Clark. Not only that, but the look on Clark's face, the anger he has for Lionel after Asylum...

Despite how painful those eps are, I think those are the ones that really show the depth of feeling those two boys have for one another.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 04:54 am (UTC)
It does. It so does. It's just--God, Lex. *Lex*.

From: [identity profile] vylit.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 05:12 am (UTC)
I cried so hard during those eps. And the thing that kills me, that really just breaks my heart, is that Lex will never know how Clark was willing to expose himself and his secret for Lex. Lex will never know just how hard Clark tried to save him.

And Clark, if he'd seen the way Lex fought, had seen how even when Lex was threatened with electrocution he wouldn't betray Clark to those meteor mutants, he'd know that Lex does honestly care for him and not just his secrets.

And, despite what is to come, I can't imagine Clark will ever look at Lex or hear Lex call him "alien," and not wonder what would have happened if he'd been able to stop Lionel.

*sniff*
ext_3740: the libertines > carl barât (lay me down)

From: [identity profile] disprove.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 05:41 am (UTC)
Now you're making *me* tear up.

From: [identity profile] astarte99.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 11:38 am (UTC)
And the thing that kills me, that really just breaks my heart, is that Lex will never know how Clark was willing to expose himself and his secret for Lex. Lex will never know just how hard Clark tried to save him.

And Clark, if he'd seen the way Lex fought, had seen how even when Lex was threatened with electrocution he wouldn't betray Clark to those meteor mutants, he'd know that Lex does honestly care for him and not just his secrets.


Dude. Totally. What makes it so heartwrenching is that *we* know what neither of the boys will ever know. I love watching how obvious it is that they both care ridiculously for the other - Clark immediately siding with Lex when he asks whether he's with him (and his family knowing that CK's hesitation meant that they were losing - b/c they see it too).

Lex, being faced with undeniable proof of CK's secret immediately tells the first ppl he can (and yet he *still* manages to come out looking lost and deserving of major secret-revealing rescue) - 'that car hit him at 80 miles an hour and he tossed it like a toy'.

Oh, the angst, the angst.

From: [identity profile] nonchop.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 04:41 am (UTC)
I'll be online in five.

From: [identity profile] thecaelum.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 05:01 am (UTC)
*nodnodnodEMPHATICnod*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 05:02 am (UTC)
I am never going to be able to forget that look on Lex's face. Any of them.

I need more cookies. Like, now.

From: [identity profile] thecaelum.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 05:16 am (UTC)
Yeah. I watched both episodes, and I own the S3 DVDs, but I just cannot watch them again.

In terms of TV and emotion, I'm really not the crying sort. I watch, I digest, I think, but I'm not ever really emotionally into it. Well, that's not entirely accurate. I am, but not to the level that I'd show it.

Memoria, when Lex saw his mother standing over Julian's crib and realized what she'd done, and Asylum, when he actually begs Lionel not to do this to him... only two Smallville moments that had me choked up.

From: [identity profile] siobhan-w.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 05:10 am (UTC)
A couple weeks ago I had a mini SV marathon and watched all three DVD sets. I watched every single episode EXCEPT for Shattered and Asylum. I just couldn't do it. I'd rather watch the worst SV episode ever made than watch those two episodes again. 'Cause they hurt!!!

From: [identity profile] j-bluestocking.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 05:19 am (UTC)
There, there, there, there, there.

From: [identity profile] suzvoy.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 05:25 am (UTC)
*sniff*

*clings*

From: [identity profile] spike21.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 05:29 am (UTC)
*pets* I don't think I could ever watch them again either, because it was in a way, the last chance for 'plan A'. Now it's all 'plan B' and let blood rain from heaven.

From: [identity profile] clannadlvr.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 06:15 am (UTC)
Seriously, both kill me. Dead. But sooooo important to watch.

I guess they fit into the omgithurtssobaditsgood category?

From: [identity profile] gehirnstuerm.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 06:30 am (UTC)
I'm a bit of a masochist when it comes to TV shows. Those two episodes hurt so bad, but I love them. Especially Shattered. OMG, the ending! With Lionel! *quivering lower lip*
I guess I like having my heart broken and stomped all over it. Or something *lol*

From: [identity profile] saturnalia.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 02:16 pm (UTC)
Ahh, same here. I love them to bits.

From: [identity profile] countess7.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 11:50 am (UTC)
Oh! You did it! I'm so proud! Was it as horrible as you thought it would be? Or just you know, upsetting and hard to watch?

I saw them on the first run and yeah, they were very hard to watch. And when I got my S3 DVDs I skipped right by them. The thought of re-watching them makes my voice get all high and squeaky and loud and I keep repeating why? how? why? how? watch them again? why? how? why? how? So, no. That's not something I'm prepared to do just yet. Or maybe ever will be. But whatever, I love Lex. I think he's very special. Shattered was a fantastic episode, but at the end with his eyes all dark and him in the...and that SONG! Who knew Johnny Cash could make Trent Reznor even more upsetting. Though I do wonder if they had played the original what it would have been like. But I always thought that since it was Johnny Cash the song really referred more to Lionel. But I'm not re-watching to see if I'm wrong. And Asylum. Well its best really to not speak about Asylum. Because I really was not expecting THAT and truthfully, I started screaming. Like a completely psychotic freak, but there you go. Just screaming my head off.

It was like on Oz (have you ever seen Oz?), this one guy (who I won't name in case you haven't seen it and might one day and don't want spoilers) gets electrocuted but he really shouldn't because he's mentally challenged. But its' the second or maybe third time he's been put in the chair and each time he's been saved, but this time he wasn't. And I wasn't expecting it. I just figured no, they won't do that. Tom Fontana will not do that to me. And it was the same thing with Lex. I really thought Clark would save him. Oh it was so awful! I can't talk about it anymore, I'll get upset.

Anyway (this is really long) like I said before now you don't ever have to watch them again (like the rest of the fandom:)).

From: [identity profile] issaro.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 01:22 pm (UTC)
There are support groups. There's excising your demons through fic. And, of course, there's chocolate. *G*

From: [identity profile] madmartigan-1.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 02:45 pm (UTC)
yeah, supporting you here. I get upset at TPTB (unreasonably) just thinking about those eps - how they've traumatized the characters and all of us to... well, little point if they can't resolve things better than this.

From: [identity profile] luthorienne.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 02:55 pm (UTC)
I understand. I actually saw a fanvid (an excellent one, with "Blue On Black" as the music, though I can't for the life of me remember the vidder's name -- but YAY, YOU, whoever you are!) before I saw the eps, and I cried for an hour after I watched it.

Having said that, I think these eps are a vital part of the Clark/Lex relationship, and of the development of the characters. And they made me want to take Lex away and look after him.

From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 04:24 pm (UTC)
Hvae you watched Memoira?
ext_16366: (CLex Forgive)

From: [identity profile] cheights.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 06:09 pm (UTC)
So is it bad, that watching those two episodes is what finally hooked me into Smallville? That's when I went out and bought Seasons 1 and 2 and watched those as I was watching Season 3. I have trouble re-watching Asylum, because Lex tied down while his father talks to him freaks me out, but I've watched Shattered so many times I think I have every moment of it memorized. And every time I watch it again, I come up with another scenario of how it could have all gone differently. I think that's the draw of those two episodes for me, you see how much they care for each other, and it's so incredibly heartbreaking that my mind starts to entertain itself with what ifs. And I've never been able to resist a what if.

From: [identity profile] devin-chain.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 07:06 pm (UTC)
I keep thinking, "This from the person who wrote A Handful of Dust?" *Branding*, Jenn.

;)

And warmest *hugs*

From: [identity profile] maraceles.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-16 11:16 pm (UTC)
Bwhahahha. That's what I thought, too.

The branding scarred me for life. *g*

From: [identity profile] obsidian-rai.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 07:17 pm (UTC)
*hugs* I must like the angst way too much or something because I *love* those two eps and have seen each at least five times now. They are just so heart-wrenching and so full of the love the boys have for each other and seeing just how gifted an actor MR is... Yeah. Painful they may be, but I can't get enough. Heh. *snugs* Banana bread? *holds out plate*

From: [identity profile] aivilo-18.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-13 10:08 pm (UTC)
It's funny how something like this brings out the "mother" in people whom you don't usually cyber-commune with.

Because all I feel like doing right now (despite the fact that we don't really know each other) is tucking you in and feeding you cookies and alcohol and telling you that it'll all look better in the morning and maybe doing your cleaning for you until you're all better.

And, considering how long it took me to get over these eps, that could be a while.

From: [identity profile] wrenlet.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-14 03:02 am (UTC)
*hums*

*runs away*

From: [identity profile] logovo.livejournal.com Date: 2005-04-15 02:08 am (UTC)
May I just say that even while I love your fic to a scary extreme I notice you haven't exactly been easy on Lex, what with the amputations, branding and all ;)

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