http://www.illuminatedtext.com/

Okay, if you are still interested, here is what I need tested. All graphics are by [livejournal.com profile] misskatherine who rocks. I'm trying out my understanding of div ids for the index2 page, so multiple resolutions and mulitple browser opinions are solicited. This was done in IE 6, eight by six, true color. I need to see if it works across the board or comes out really funky.

What I'm trying to figure out is how to do the magical span commands that worked kick ass in text and not so much in an imagemap. To see an example of this, go here.

http://portico.illuminatedtext.com/illindex2.html

You should have text appear at the bottom whenever you run over a link using span and css commands. So far, I've been unsuccessful in making this work in the imagemap, so am looking at javascript for now.

*smiles sunnily* Have at it. If it doesn't work, on either score, tell me what it does look like, browser, and resolution. Links won't work at portico--it was my experiment.

And thank you in advance for taking the time to help! I appreciate it! *hugs to fandom*

From: [identity profile] chicklet73.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:25 pm (UTC)
I'm getting text appearing at the bottom as I mouseover the links...I have IE 6.0

Does that help?

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:35 pm (UTC)
Perfect. *Hugs* So far so good, no one is seeing anything screwy. I really don't trust myself without lots of backup when playing with new things.

Thank you so much for responding!

From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:31 pm (UTC)
Yay for Jenn posting! Saves me from the incredible boredom of waiting for 5.30pm to come... Man, it always drags when you know that you're not actually accomplishing anything.

Well, it seems to work for me (the text appearing at the bottom). Could just be my work computer/monotor (which is incredibly screwy when it comes to pitures), but the text looks a bit... plain?

(Well, I'm tempted to say ugly, but that's *so* just my personal opinions/font preferences/etc, so don't take that into consideration. My whims can change easily.)

I like the strike-thru effect after you've visited a site, though. Very cool.

The other (main) site seems fine, but a bit... bare.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:39 pm (UTC)
Well, it seems to work for me (the text appearing at the bottom). Could just be my work computer/monotor (which is incredibly screwy when it comes to pitures), but the text looks a bit... plain?

*eg*

No, it's supposed to be when I was trying to work in pixels for absolutes, not in percentages. I changed to percentages when I couldn't quit be sure it would work across browsers if I designated absolute in pixels. Courier is very exact, so I was using it as the benchmark. Yep, ugly as hell. *shivers* Very, very ugly.

I like the strike-thru effect after you've visited a site, though. Very cool.

*nodnodnod* Me too.

The other (main) site seems fine, but a bit... bare.

Yeah. I left off stuff until we could either get an introduction to the domain or until I can make that text trick work with the imagemap.

Warning sign number 10000 that you are WAY too far into fandom: You obsess over new HTML/CSS commands and scripts in your free time.

*huggles hard* Thanks!

From: [identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:55 pm (UTC)
*shivers* Very, very ugly.

Oh, good. That was my reaction too, but I'm not exactly... arty. I don't *get* modern art and stuff, so sometimes the things I consider downright ugly, other people adore.

Plus, never good to be rude and totally piss off friends. Although, I think I'm a bit too tired for my full *need to be polite here* internal warning to kick in.

From: [identity profile] mintwitch.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:34 pm (UTC)
IE 6 on WinXP- Works fine. "No fan is an island." shows up as 11pt Times New Roman, though, fyi.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:41 pm (UTC)
Hmm. I wonder if I forgot to close the div. *going to check now* Thanks!

And before I forget completely, thanks for teh comments on Crack!Daphne fic. *hugs* I'm glad it isn't just sending people running for the hills.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:49 pm (UTC)
Okay, now all should be showing as arial. For the text in the middle, 12 or 14 I think, for the credits, 10. All Arial, all the time.

*woot* I solved a problem without panic! Go me!

From: [identity profile] mintwitch.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 11:40 pm (UTC)
Yup, that did it. Go you!
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From: [identity profile] svmadelyn.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:44 pm (UTC)
I see the same font as [livejournal.com profile] mintwitch--I have the same browser too. I can see the text at the bottom of the portico page though. Have fun with it!

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:50 pm (UTC)
Whee! Fixed the first problem. And thanks for the word on teh second thing! I love that *so* much. *sighs happily* so very much.

*hugs* Double thanks for responding, sweets. I appreciate it.

From: [identity profile] mintwitch.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:50 pm (UTC)
The link to 'sparkage' is broken, too.

Is this okay, surfing and commenting when I find something, on your LJ? You posted the request here, so I assume you are okay with an open beta-run, but tell me if I'm being obnoxious, please.

K. Thanks. ::back to surfing::

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 10:52 pm (UTC)
Oh no, feel *free* to do so. I hate when there are these silly little mistakes that I find out only, like, months later. Just critique away.

And link fixed. *hugs* You are a marvel.

From: [identity profile] mintwitch.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 11:34 pm (UTC)
jack aka 'bugger' is broken. By the way, you are an amazing writer. I was pleased to have an excuse to click on all the fic again. ::virtuous look:: Oh, la. Happy sigh.

From: [identity profile] mintwitch.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 11:37 pm (UTC)
CLex Mpreg?

There are just some things I don't need to know.

::Everyone is entitled to their own kink, except those crazy people over there. ;-)::
jaymalea: (Brian)

From: [personal profile] jaymalea Date: 2003-11-21 08:48 am (UTC)
Mint~ read! it's hilarious! Clark in a mumu! The wedding! Ahhh.. I laughed for days.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 06:29 pm (UTC)
Trust me on this one, it's--unique. It's the only mpreg story in creation I will rec without hesitation.

Come on. Pineapple covered muumuus and Clark flying patrol in overstretched tights. You *know* you want to.

*evil grin*

From: [identity profile] mintwitch.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 06:47 pm (UTC)
Well, I've never seen the show, nor read any of the fic, so...

We'll see. I'll *think* about it.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 10:45 pm (UTC)
There's art and features a goat named Sparky.

...

I just terrified you with that, didn't I?

From: [identity profile] mintwitch.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 11:56 pm (UTC)
Pretty much, yeah. Quit helping.

From: [identity profile] moxie-brown.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-20 11:09 pm (UTC)
Works fine on XP IE6, but on Mozilla 0.6.1, the text at the bottom is very, very tiny, like, super tiny.

Also, that is a very neat effect; could I ask where you got it from? I would so love a tutorial on creating that effect using CSS.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 06:30 pm (UTC)
Hmm. Damn, I'll work on teh text thing. I want it readable.

*makes note*

It's *so* cool. The entire site is cool.

http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/

Check it. They have caps of screens so you can see what it's supposed to look like, too.

From: [identity profile] moxie-brown.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-22 11:50 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the link!

From: [identity profile] j-bluestocking.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 01:01 am (UTC)
I still can't access anything at illuminatedtext! Waaaah! (That is the childish sound of me whining and stamping feet while everyone else is having fun.)

The first time tonight I hit the main page, and it came right up. I was delighted (and it's quite pretty, by the way). Then I clicked on some sub-pages, and nada. It loads, loads, loads, loads... eons pass... take a shower, come back... still "loading"... Now I can't even get the main page any more. What internet gods have I offended?

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 06:31 pm (UTC)
Okay, try this.

Dump your cache and restart clean, then try to get in. My computer does this sometimes with sites, where it'll keep loading the old version or not anything at all on some sites if it errors out the first time.

God, I hope this works. I'm goingn to update your graphics soon and I wnat them to be pretty!

*pouts* Stupid internet.

From: [identity profile] j-bluestocking.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 10:12 pm (UTC)
I cleared out the cache, and then tried the second URL (the portico one), and got in immediately. Though what I saw was a very simple page(?) I tried the first URL then (illuminatedtext.com), and it went into the permanent "loading" thing. Went back to portico, and zipped right in again.

I'm using Internet Explorer, but I tried with my Yahoo browser and the same thing happens. I'm not even sure what questions to ask, unfortunately.

From: [identity profile] j-bluestocking.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 10:17 pm (UTC)
Though here's a question. Have you seen the December Vanity Fair? With the actor who plays Brian Kinney, dressed in white, his chest artfully exposed, lounging on the floor with Carson of Queer Eye's hand resting on his head? And the actors from Will and Grace, also all in white?

It looks as though they air-brushed Carson a little. They're treating him as an object of the female erotic gaze (and male too, obviously). I thought it was kind of cute.

Sorry if people have already been talking about this. I haven't had a chance to keep up with LJ lately.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 10:44 pm (UTC)
Sweets, there is *never* too much Gale Harold discussion. Oh my yes. That is *so* damn gorgeous it hurts me. In a good way.

*pokes* Read Julad's The Importance of Being Brian right now. You will totally go to your grave regretting you didn't if you don't!

*hugs*

From: [identity profile] j-bluestocking.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-23 10:42 pm (UTC)
The Importance of Being Brian was superb. I haven't made a deep study of QaF fiction, but I do know that some of the few I've read lately struck me as being strangely out of character, and it led me to think of the things readers will put up with in fanfic in the name of getting their fix. Which is going off topic a bit, but this story was delightful -- charmed the hell out of me.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 10:42 pm (UTC)
Okay, this is *weird*.

Let me ask Bethy to contact the domain and see if they have any advice.

*double hmm* Oh well, I'm redoing your graphics anyway. *eg* So it'll be a surprise!

From: [identity profile] littlebad.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 01:32 am (UTC)
I'm using Safari 1.0 on a Mac with 10.2.8 and its all seems to be fine, when rolling over the text it shows fairly small but not unreadable light text at the bottom, the portico page fits with no scroll bars. I also tried in Mozilla 1.5 and its almost the same but it has a permanent scroll bar at the bottom and the text appearing at the bottom is boldish in appearance. Hope that's helpful.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 06:33 pm (UTC)
*blinks* A scroll bar at the bottom? What's your screen res? I may need to down the percentages a little.

*makes notes* thanks! Okay, boldish. THAT is different. I wonder if I missed a command somewhere...

*ponders code*

From: [identity profile] typhoid-mary.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 01:50 am (UTC)
I'm using Mozilla at 768x1024, and illindex2.html mostly looks good except there's a thin grey bar a tenth from the bottom of my screen and the longer mouseover text (ie, andy's page) writes across it. Also a couple of broken links, but I think other people caught them. Even though I'm outvoted, I like the clean look of that text style.
-Mari

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 06:34 pm (UTC)
Damn, I was worried about thta grey line. I was using it to separate the links from the text, but in some res', it keeps sitting *on* the text. Must *fix* that.

*looks at grey line darkly*

*hugs* Thanks for the comments!

From: [identity profile] desdema.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 01:51 am (UTC)
opera 7.21 on win98se doesn't seem so happy with the page. the mouseover works but the text doesn't show up at one place at the bottom. i took some screencaps so you can see what it's doing. basically the text for the left hand column shows up to the right and down a bit. the right hand column has the text appear a bit to the left and down, though the second line is much farther down than the first.

pic1 (http://www.devotedsatellite.com/lj/pic1.jpg)
pic2 (http://www.devotedsatellite.com/lj/pic2.jpg)
pic3 (http://www.devotedsatellite.com/lj/pic3.jpg)
pic4 (http://www.devotedsatellite.com/lj/pic4.jpg)
pic5 (http://www.devotedsatellite.com/lj/pic5.jpg)

i know it's not a particularly popular browser but most sites do work on it. you might check out their web design forum (http://my.opera.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=27) if you want to troubleshoot the problem.
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From: [personal profile] akacat Date: 2003-11-21 03:17 am (UTC)
And I'll ditto that for Opera 7.11 on WinXP.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 06:37 pm (UTC)
*hugs more* You both are amazing. Thank you.

*off to work out the problems*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 06:36 pm (UTC)
WOW. Okay, you *rock*.

*saves pics* THANK YOU. And the forums are a good idea. I'm really not familiar with the browser, but I know enough people use it that it could become a problem if I try to do something complex.

*hugs hard* Thank you so much!

Somewhat random comment:

From: [identity profile] nopejr.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 04:03 am (UTC)
You should probably specify your page background colour as white -- which, admittedly, is the default browser colour for most people, so it's not really that much of a problem, but for some people it can look kinda odd (http://www.nopespace.com/images/iltext.jpg).

Re: Somewhat random comment:

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-21 06:38 pm (UTC)
Oh God. I *did* designate. I wonder if I left out a part of the code, though.

Hmm. *saves cap* That's *got* to be fixed. That just looks--well, bizarre.

Thank you!

From: [identity profile] j-bluestocking.livejournal.com Date: 2003-11-23 10:51 pm (UTC)
I got in, I got in! Just now! All the way, I could reach every page!

Of course, like all experiments, this one must be replicable before we can feel secure.

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