Saturday, January 7th, 2012 02:15 pm
the time has come to consider a change
So for the first time seriously, I'm thinking of buying a house. By house, I mean, condo, townhome, residence not requiring me to know how to handle a yard and/or drainage. I am doing this under teh assumption certain family-related events occur as they should, but whatever, no matter how I do the math, my better choice is a mortgage over rent, as Austin rent is ridiculous. Scary, but true.
I've worked out three separate budgets, all of which include the slush fund, which is my term for all teh stuff I know I will forget really need to be in a budget, and under the assumption that bills are easy to underestimate. I've also increased my contributions to my stock account, since my one savant quality with finances seems to be choosing decent stocks at a low price. Ive' also started to make allownaces for things that will make my future abode look less serial killer like maybe a table of some kind, but that's under Furniture and in my family, we tend to exchange that a lot, so no worries, and I'll be honest, Child and I are tech; tables mean less than making sure we have enough routers to get wireless in every corner of the place and the place makes adding ethernet hookups easy.
Allowing for that, what precisely should I be looking for as reasonable in things like HOA fees and what they are supposed to accomplish, and for that matter, energy efficiency and what that actually means. In Austin, you can assume it's a good thing, mostly, but good doesn't tell me how I should balance that to mortgage payment.
These things are immutable: property taxes here range from disturbingly low to wtf; you would think there would be like, a reason for that, but sometimes, it really makes no sense. This is actually becoming a breakpoint for me; up to a certain point, all the mortgage payments themselves are within a few hundred dollars of each other, which is fine and well below my cutoff; the property tax issue is a huge problem, because that can be--and is--sometimes more than the mortgage payment itself. And I'm not actually joking about the randomness; even downtown it varies by how the bird flies.
I'm finding it most annoying that the most interesting places are south of the river; for those in Austin, I work just north of Manor Road and Child goes to school in Pflugerville. The odds of either of us not becoming sociopaths due to sleep dep is very high and I'm trying to be realistic about our chances of pulling this off, and its' best to upfront state our known weaknesses.
The one very nice thing is in Austin, Child and I jsut barely make the 80% median income (and I mean, I'm wondering if my next mandatory twenty dollars a month retentition raise will kick us over), so we qualify for at least one or two useful-looking programs for first time homebuyers. And I assume I should take the homebuyer classes.
But. Any advice, in general or in specific? In return, I hereby promise that should any fan-run convention make its home in Austin (HINT), I will totally open my kitchen to all baking and pre-con partying and I promise regular fan gatherings. It's kind of a dream of mine to host a premiere party, to be honest. Traditionally in my family, we also tend to have people come to live with us for months on end, but keep in mind unless there is a miracle in housing here, it'll be on a couch that I will presumably own at some point.
(I actually have a spreadsheet for this right now to work out estimates on everything, and realized that while I consider cable an 'eh', I consider broadband a requirement for survival, as does Child. We're currently debating whether we really need food as much as 50G broadband. We're both downloaders and box-set buyers of television. It's hard, yo.)
I've worked out three separate budgets, all of which include the slush fund, which is my term for all teh stuff I know I will forget really need to be in a budget, and under the assumption that bills are easy to underestimate. I've also increased my contributions to my stock account, since my one savant quality with finances seems to be choosing decent stocks at a low price. Ive' also started to make allownaces for things that will make my future abode look less serial killer like maybe a table of some kind, but that's under Furniture and in my family, we tend to exchange that a lot, so no worries, and I'll be honest, Child and I are tech; tables mean less than making sure we have enough routers to get wireless in every corner of the place and the place makes adding ethernet hookups easy.
Allowing for that, what precisely should I be looking for as reasonable in things like HOA fees and what they are supposed to accomplish, and for that matter, energy efficiency and what that actually means. In Austin, you can assume it's a good thing, mostly, but good doesn't tell me how I should balance that to mortgage payment.
These things are immutable: property taxes here range from disturbingly low to wtf; you would think there would be like, a reason for that, but sometimes, it really makes no sense. This is actually becoming a breakpoint for me; up to a certain point, all the mortgage payments themselves are within a few hundred dollars of each other, which is fine and well below my cutoff; the property tax issue is a huge problem, because that can be--and is--sometimes more than the mortgage payment itself. And I'm not actually joking about the randomness; even downtown it varies by how the bird flies.
I'm finding it most annoying that the most interesting places are south of the river; for those in Austin, I work just north of Manor Road and Child goes to school in Pflugerville. The odds of either of us not becoming sociopaths due to sleep dep is very high and I'm trying to be realistic about our chances of pulling this off, and its' best to upfront state our known weaknesses.
The one very nice thing is in Austin, Child and I jsut barely make the 80% median income (and I mean, I'm wondering if my next mandatory twenty dollars a month retentition raise will kick us over), so we qualify for at least one or two useful-looking programs for first time homebuyers. And I assume I should take the homebuyer classes.
But. Any advice, in general or in specific? In return, I hereby promise that should any fan-run convention make its home in Austin (HINT), I will totally open my kitchen to all baking and pre-con partying and I promise regular fan gatherings. It's kind of a dream of mine to host a premiere party, to be honest. Traditionally in my family, we also tend to have people come to live with us for months on end, but keep in mind unless there is a miracle in housing here, it'll be on a couch that I will presumably own at some point.
(I actually have a spreadsheet for this right now to work out estimates on everything, and realized that while I consider cable an 'eh', I consider broadband a requirement for survival, as does Child. We're currently debating whether we really need food as much as 50G broadband. We're both downloaders and box-set buyers of television. It's hard, yo.)
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From:I also recommend living within a 30 minute commute from work if possible, it really does make a difference on quality of life.
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From:Things I've learned through 4 houses in 3 states:
Budget for simple renovations (such as painting walls and refinishing floors) to be done immediately upon purchase. By not limiting yourself to houses in "move in condition" you widen the pool of potential houses and lower the purchase price. If you're not handy (or interested) get a quote on having the work done. Don't trust the realtor's off the cuff estimates of what painting etc will cost. They always low ball it.
Remember to budget for the actual move. Unless you have very willing friends with a truck and lots of boxes, moving isn't cheap.
Buy a home not an investment property (t can be both but if it's your first it should be a home first and an investment second). In other words, make sure that you a) like the neighborhood and the commute and b) that the financing is rational over the long term.
Spend more time choosing the firm that does the home inspection than you spent choosing your realtor. Know their record, know what they are looking for (and not looking for), ask them to review the findings with you in person. Know that no matter how much research you do first, something major will break in the first year anyway.
Never buy in a flood plain. Never buy any house with basement that takes on water, even if its only in 100 year floods. 100 year floods happen more often these days and flood insurance is little or no reassurance when you are throwing out everything on the ground floor. If the current owners tell you that the basement has been dry since they got the sump pump fixed, buy a different house. The moment the power goes out - so does the sump pump.
Good luck and have fun!
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From:also, don't buy a house without getting it inspected by an ASHI-licensed inspector.
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From:Also, a friend of mine bought a house in a neighborhood where his choice of cable was limited to DSL only due to problems between the developer and the cable company. Consider this an overall "ask about the wiring" caution.
In my house hunting, I often found a sad lack of storage space in the kitchen for food storage for the given number of people expected to live in the space.
Good luck and happy hunting!
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From:1) Ask about building assessments -- monthly or one-shot payments on top of your maintenance. Ask if they exist, if they're upcoming, how often they occur and for what reason.
1b) Also ask how active the condo (co-op) board is -- how big, how often they meet, how often they plan things, etc.
2) Know what the typical monthly maintenance is for the area and don't consider any place with one significantly higher than that average unless it comes with a load of amenities. The monthly maintenance fees are an excellent indicator of the financial health of a building -- something's wrong if it's very high and banks get scared. Remember, it will never, ever go down and will always go up, so budget that in to your long-term planning.
2b) Also, ask how often the maintenance changes and by how much.
3) Ask about apartment turnover and any vacancies. The latter may factor in to the bank funding the mortgage.
4) Budget for non-furniture aesthetic improvements and the 'little' things that you usually can't ding the seller for: carpet replacement, wall painting, bathroom and kitchen fixture/appliance upgrades, etc.
5) Check for signs of pest control, especially within the apartment. People don't put down mousetraps or gonzo roach traps for no reason. If there's a garbage disposal/recycling room on the floor, check that out, too. Basement and garage if it exists.
5) Bring a 25' (or more) tape measure when you visit because floorplans lie, if they exist at all. Realtors lie even more and they sometimes neglect to tell you whether they're quoting you actual space or "livable space." Get both numbers if you can.
6) Visit during times when you can get a good sense of noise (neighbors, up/down/side) and natural light. This may take more than one visit.
7) Before or after you visit any potential place, walk around the neighborhood (actually walk, no driving). See who your potential neighbors are, find out where the shopping/library/mailbox is, and generally try to get a feel for the place. If you can, hang out in front of the building for a few to see who goes in and out and how they act and how they treat the property.
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From:If you're buying something (condo, townhouse, etc.) with an association, make sure you get a copy of the association documents. These will tell you what the reserve is (bigger is better), what monthly fees cover, how it's managed (professionally or by the owners), if there are any assessments coming up, etc. Special assessments are usually charged when there are one-time bills coming up relating to the building, such as for elevator repair, boiler replacement, unusually high heating costs, etc. You definitely want to know if there are any coming up soon and, if there are, you may be able to negotiate with the unit owner as to who pays and/or how much.
If you have any questions about how condos, etc. work, I'm happy to try to answer. I was on the board of trustees for my former condo for several years.
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From:Drainage and topography maps have to be studied with care because (oh, this is starting to bite the unknowing in the ass) climate change invalidates flood frequency calculations. So, if the house is in any kind of site that can flood at all, you have to assume the hazard may be much worse than it says on the official report. (And yes, this includes houses a block away from that itty-bitty usually dry stream mostly in culverts if your topography is wrong.) The same caveat applies for brush fire hazards (possibly applicable to you), slope slumping, and landslides (maybe not so much?).
It's also good if you can check out the recent historic land usage. Intense dairy farming or feed lots, for example, can do things to your soil that have a wicked effect on your foundation down the road if the soil wasn't properly treated during construction. Also please evaluate your ability to take shelter on the property during a bad storm seriously. And how's the ant and other insect situation out in the yard? I had an acquaintance who found out too late that she had ALL the fire ants.
As well, it's good to get on a community chat board, if one exists, and see what the would-be neighbors are saying. Sure, there's a lot of semi-random grousing, but if the local trash guys are especially bad, or that street is plowed last, or the repair crews in your ward are dispatched by a brain-damaged orangutang with insomnia, you'll find that out before you sign the contract. Everyone can tolerate lots of stuff but has that one special thing that would make them crazy over the course of years. If you know what it is, and find out before you buy, you may avoid some stress.
By the way, you're absolutely right about the commute. Study after study shows buyers underestimate how miserable a bad commute to a good house will make them. It seems to be a top-three factor in eventual home satisfaction, and most folks don't even take it into full consideration.
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From:An easy route to work (preferrably 2 in case the other gets blocked some time) is important.
Everywhere I looked, I went out and walked the area and the surrounding blocks - in the daytime and at night, weekday and weekend. I'd especially try to go on my way home from work. And Philadelphia published in 2006 and 2007 violent crime and homocide maps where I could see what time of day what crimes were being committed to whom. I did not check the Meghan's Law listings on principle... except for that one time I got a really bad feeling about an interraction I'd had - and I did manage to quit pining over the house backing up to the house with 4 people on the list. Note - crime in general didn't rule out more than 1 intersection in my search, but I found it useful to have as much data as possible.
Every neighborhood I could afford claimed to be about to have a surge of revitalization any day. It's still important to want to live in the house today.
My house search lasted two and a half years. I missed out on some incentives by taking that long, but again I wanted a house that felt like home.
One complaint: people seem to have stopped installing windowsills. I wish I had some. Windows are expensive, and I'm having trouble finding window replacement people who understand that no matter how energy efficient it's important to be able to open windows, too.
Re: inspections
I used the exact same guy as friends who had just bought a house. He was awesome for them and kind of sucked for me.
But I did a thing that was brilliant, and I don't understand why it isn't common (or at all) practice. I negotiated that whatever the inspector found to be fixed that we requested the buyer to fix, and to which they agreed, and it would then get re-inspected by the same guy to make sure they'd done the repair properly (since what do I know?)
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From:I didn't thoroughly consider having to live in a rather intimate way with these people -- both sides and behind and across -- for a good portion of my life with no option to move away from them. Their decisions impact me, and I get no say in their behaviors. In retrospect, I'd now put mental health higher on the scale than anything else. :(
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From:We've had this bite us in the butt, and we even liked our realtor.
On the other hand, you'll need to ask for references and if you can find somebody who has worked in construction and has good references from that, this would be a plus.
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From:HOAs: find out what the fees have been the last few years (to see how much and how often they go up.) Get details on what the fees cover. If you get a townhouse you want to make sure you don't have to maintain your "backyard". Are you responsible for any exterior maintenance on your unit? What does the association's property insurance cover? (Until recently, my dues covered my share of a policy that covered everything structural, with a $10k deductible. So my own insurance was little more than renters' insurance, and just as cheap.) Get a copy of the covenant and all the rules & regs. (We have a separate R&R just for the pool. One detail you would find relevant is that we don't permit anyone under 17yo to use the pool unless their parent or other caregiver over the age of 21 is present.) It can't hurt to ask to see a copy of the HOA budget, though that may be something they can't show you as a non-owner.
Don't trust any home warranty farther than you can throw it.
Be leery of any maintenance-type insurance, of any kind. (My electric co offers insurance on the plumbing between the water meter and the home. The catch is, no pipe that isn't either parallel or perpendicular to the home is covered. Most of the water lines in our complex run diagonally between the meter and home -- so none of those would be covered.)
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From:You have two things:
1. Condo fees vary. Mine went from $345 to $750 in four years. Cost depends on what they cover and the maintence needs for the building/development- see roofs, elevators etc.
And when somebody gets forclosed and quits paying, everyone else has to pay more to make up the difference.
2. What ever you have saved? Child's university will try to take it. So better to spend it on a down payment now, because in a couple of years it will greatly affect his financial aid.
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From:The HOA fees are annoying me, but property taxes are ridiculous. If I could work out the pattern, at least I'd know which areas to avoid, but no. They'll jump from 1K to 5K in the same neighborhood with no rhyme or reason. Gah.
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From:p.s. and remember even if those lines don't affect your son, they DO affect potential buyers. Sometimes people know the lines are going to change in the future and start devaluing an area just because of that, too, astoundingly.
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From:Also asbestos around pipes, on tiles, etc. Lead in the paint if it's older than the 60s.
Find out how old the roof is. Go around and test the electrical. Make sure it has the correct wiring. Energy efficiency will greatly reduce your electric/cooling bills.
norabombay is right about the college fund. I'm facing that now. Bastards want to take everything so hide it while you can.
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From:Condos/townhouses lose their value faster in down markets than single family homes but if they are in a great location the difference is far less.
Also, does your son's school go through HS? I can't remember... If not, I'd plan around the HS choice along with your work location, narrow down to "best" areas within a reasonable commute. Property taxes being high COULD be a sign that certain areas hold their value over time whereas others don't (but that can change). Don't forget also that property taxes are deductible on your income taxes, so depending on your bracket the difference between property tax amounts isn't as much in after tax dollars as it appears.
Also as we have recently experienced during refinancing, you want a unit that's ~typical of the surrounding development/area. Like, no A-frame ski chalets in the middle of adobe/white area.
Carefully read all legal documents about condo/townhome ownership, associations etc. You may even want to hire a local lawyer who specializes in them... they are a weird breed of ownership that has features unique to themselves and the laws vary state by state. What exactly are your rights and responsibilities? How much can they jack fees within what period of time? If there aren't limits on things spelled out in the agreements, be very careful. You literally might end up spending less on a small modest single family (not advocating that because believe me, I hear you on the maintenance/upkeep crap omgggg).
Also, SQUEEE and yay for you! \o/
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From:Hm, I need to check on the property tax issue. That's really a breakpoint for a lot of places I like; some of these nearly double the price.
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From:Another thing to look at, in terms of condos and townhouses, is to look at the other units in the lot and see how many are in current foreclosure proceedings. If there are a certain amount, at least in WA state, then getting certain kinds of loans to be able to buy in said complex can be a real bitch.
As for hidden money drains, I'd also ask about the roofs of any units you look at, as well as if they have decks. If the roofs are in need of repair, or their decks are, I wouldn't advise you to buy, unless the place is so dirt cheap you can spend ten grand on your portion of the new roof and another two to five grand on a new deck. So. There are those things to consider. Also check out the age of the condo - in our unit, it was built in the 1980's. It has a concrete frame. We don't HEAR a lot from our neighbors but Jesus fucking christ if they stomp around in their units all the shit on my shelves rattle. So. Do consider the age and composition of the place you buy as well.
My only insight on the property taxes is the surrounding neighborhoods. As in our property taxes are somewhat cheap - however, we live right on the edge of Holy Shit Redneck Area where there are rundown apartments and trailers. But that's over the hill and you can't quite see it from our nice little complex. But in the other direction we have lovely homes in good condition. So. Just be aware that if the property values are low, the area might not be such a great place to live in. As for the downtown weird pricing, I'm betting a lot of places are grandfathered into the new tax brackets. Like with my parents' house they sold - they paid MAYBE a thousand dollars a year in property taxes, but when they sold the place, it was no longer grandfathered in under the old tax laws, and the new family had to pay upwards of six thousand dollars a year in property taxes.
Hope that helps!
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http://www.naeba.org/
You should also feel very comfortable with your agent and feel s/he is trustworthy, so if you can agent shop that's good.
Once you've found a place, make sure you use an agency that checks to make sure there are no liens on the home. You'd be surprised (and appalled) how often people take out home ownership loans and "forget" to mention it. Once a home becomes yours, if it has a lien on it it somehow becomes your problem. Lawyers usually take care of hiring such an agency (but the buyer pays of course).
Oh, and I'd echo the fact that higher taxes aren't necessarily a horrible thing if it means the neighborhood is better/safer/has a better school system - basically it could be a sign of resale value. It may not be, of course, but it's something to discuss with someone who knows the real estate market well.
Good luck!
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From:1) I am not certain whether Texas has a property tax cap (for instance like California), but likely the variances are because of the 'value' of the house from when it last sold. Many states base the tax on the sale price of the home, not the value of the home, so some of the homes that last sold in the boom time are going to be figured significantly higher than the homes previously dumped during the bust. Your real estate agent will be able to confirm this for you. Also, most states do not charge the property tax as a single annual payment (California did it in two; Nevada splits it into four).
Some mortgages require you to pay as part of the mortgage, your home insurance and your property taxes. Try not to get one of these as they are less flexible if you end up changing your insurance or your property taxes change and you can end up being at the banks whim instead of making your own decisions.
2) HOA fees for homes are generally for a 'planned' community, and pay for basic neighborhood amenities and requirements. If you are looking at a gated community, often times they are considered private property, so things like street surfacing, stop signs and curb painting are the responsibility of the HOA, not the city. Otherwise, you are looking at paying your share for landscaping (service, water and electric), exterior 'common' area fencing, any greenbelt parks or playgrounds, street lighting, clubhouse maintenance if applicable, insurance for all of the above, loan payments, plus general liability, extra $ for occasional things like street resurfacing, and an emergency fund whose % total is required under state law. (There are probably more items I'm not remembering, but I haven't looked at the budget of ours in months.) Most will have a cap on how much the fees can increase in any given year, but extraordinary expenses can be required for emergency act of god/legal compliance things, and that usually requires a lump sum from every homeowner outside your fees. The smaller your community, the more of a hit that can be to an individual, but hopefully you're offset by lower overall common area expenses. The other problem can come when other homeowners do not pay their dues and the HOA runs into a capital deficit which, in turn, will cause your due to increase as often as they can legal due so to (in a vicious cycle since higher fees often mean more people flake).
HOAs (at least in Nevada) can actually foreclose on a member's home for not paying their dues, but they can only place liens on the homeowner for infraction fees (like not maintaining your lawn to standards, sometimes for parking inappropriately, or doing work to the home without going through the architectural committee). Definitely ask to read the CC&Rs, plus any additional rules in a community before you buy. We've had recent homeowners buying foreclosed/ auction properties where the banks never told them there *were* CC&Rs, and so don't know they can't park on the street overnight, can't paint the exterior or do any visible exterior work to home or lawn without committee approval until they get a letter and possibly a fine -- and if the previous owner was in violation for something they did and didn't correct, the new homeowner is often on the hook for making the changes at their own expense.
Older neighborhoods often no longer have HOAs, but ...
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Other things that might come up to plan for beyond the stuff folks have already mentioned like roofs and foundations --
get a thorough, comprehensive home inspection done before you sign any deal on the home you're looking to buy. Most sales are "as is" and while the existing home owner is obligated to let you know of any *known* defects, they don't always no about them (or comply) and the banks definitely don't know). Suing them afterward won't get you anything if the seller has no money to pay the judgement.
if you have neighbors and common fencing, you will be required to pay for half the cost of replacement when the time comes (sometimes even when the damage is the other homeowner's 'fault')
if a neighbor has trees that impact your yard, you can't just cut them back -- and while you can sue them for their roots damaging something, if they don't have the money, you get stuck with the repair bills anyway
homes should have the exterior painted every 8-10 years; not only to keep up the looks, but for soundness too; while the temp's not quite as high in Texas as Nevada, you've got the storms and humidity, and rot happens if you don't protect it
Some architectural committees are downright pissy about things they can see on your property -- they can limit basketball hoops, number of cars in the driveway, colors, number of bushes and/or trees (and the sizes), ornamentation, whether you can leave your garden hose visible, where you can place your trash cans. Try to find out if there is a HOA website for your area and see what the common complaints are (on both sides, the homeowners and the HOA; homeowners can create their own problems for everyone else too).
I've listed most of the doom and gloom I can think of, but really, most of it doesn't come up if you're careful where you buy and how you live. I've owned homes for almost 30 years, and would never rent again. The tax benefits are definitely worth it (at least until Congress takes them away), the rates and prices will probably never be lower, and the home market will turn around, so it is an investment for your retirement or child's future. While I'm not fond of HOAs, I can appreciate what they are trying to do and if you are going to live in a 'community' it's better the homeowners are in charge than the local government or an outside (sometimes out of state) agency. (My husband and I have stayed active on the board or at least on a committee over the last ten years, to try and make sure the stupid is controlled -- the meeting can also be entertaining).
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From:Check the outside environment. Trees dying/close enough to the house to provide a tree roach highway? Any signs of subsidence under the garage/walkway/driveway? Any major cracks in concrete patios or decks? Neighbors have pest problems? Before buying, go there at varying times of the day/week to get a feel for the activity/noise level of the neighborhood.
Check the foundations and any signs of foundation trouble such as uneven floors, doors that don't fit their frames, or cracks in walls and ceilings. The basement of a house I looked at was buckling in: not good. Also check the basements for any signs of water damage; if it's newly finished, try to check under carpeting and panelling for (possibly purposefully) hidden damage.
Budget for appliances. I bought a house with washer/dryer/range/fridge included; they all had to be replaced in under a year.
Expect to pay double homeowners insurance for the first year. One for that year, one for the next year.
Check attic ventilation; you should have vents at front, back, and sides, not just front and back.
Start asking NOW for good handymen/plumbers/electricians. Nothing sucks like a busted toilet at 11 pm on a Friday night and not knowing which plumber isn't going to gouge you or frack it up.
If any additions have been made to the house, make sure that they secured all permits and all of the work done is up to code. The city will make you tear it out if not.
Check the wiring. If the house was built around the 70's, chances are it has aluminum running through it. Fire hazard.
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From:These two shows actually helped us when it came time to start and go through the process. Realtors? Know everybody. Our Realtor was great and even helped us get a better mortgage loan.
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From:It's not a huge tip but: bring a largish marble with you. Put it in the center of the room and let go; put it along the walls in a couple of locations and let go. Does it move a lot? Does it roll in straight lines or does it go all over the place? Rent or own, people do really strange things to their floors (especially by layering things) and it's a pain in the ass to be screwing furniture to the wall or using shims every where just to make sure stuff doesn't tip over.
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From:If buying a condo, request to see all condo docs. In my city, that's actually a legal requirement--the buyer has three business days to review the condo docs and back out without penalty if something in those docs means you don't want the place.
As others have said, the condo finances and reserves are really important to know. My building has an explicit policy of not doing special assessments, but rather having high condo fees on a monthly basis to keep the reserves up. My parents bought a condo, and before 6 months were up, had to pay an extra $2000 assessment, which they did not expect. In addition to reviewing the docs, I would ask for the the names and contact details of the head of the condo board and a couple other residents, to ask about the history of special assessments/upcoming work and budget based on that.
Good luck!
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From:Good luck!
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From:As others have said, condo fees will vary. The key is to get a copy of the condo's budget and see if it makes sense. Are they taking in enough to cover their expenses and still set aside a reserve fund? Do they have a healthy capital reserve? If there's no reserve and a major issue comes up, everyone gets hit with a onetime special assessment. I actually have a clause in my condo insurance so if there is a one-time assessment the insurance policy will cover it, just in case. If you ask for a copy of the budget and they won't give you one, walk away.
You also want to look for red flags. How many of the condo units are sold/occupied? How many are for sale? How many are owner-occupied versus rented? Basically a high percentage of owner-occupied is goodness. A low-percentage of owner-occupied is a trouble sign, indicating that the development may not be financially stable.
Also check to see what the fee covers. Some HOA fees look high, but include things like basic cable or other utilities. Some associations have amenities like pools, gyms, etc-- if you'll use them that's great, if not, it's like paying for a gym membership and never using it.
You'll also want a copy of the rules & regulations for the condo association. When I was looking I found some condos had only a handful of rules while others were draconian police states. Read the rulebook and decide if you can live with the rules (and with the board making those rules). One place I looked at had so many silly rules I immediately crossed them off the list, even though they scored well on all my other criteria.
Don't forget to google the heck out of the condo, the management company and the developer to see what pops up.
And yes, it's all about location. Not only for you to enjoy living there, but also for future resale.
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From:Make certain that the HOA rules are something you can live with, and enough to enforce a living situation that you can endure.
We didn't realize that smoke could come up through cracks in the flooring.
I am highly allergic to cigarette smoke.
One year after a trio of smokers moved in below us, our house now reeks of smoke, and my asthma has gotten worse.
There is no legal action we can take.
We are stuck, due to the housing market having fallen since we bought the condo - it's worth about 1/3 of it's inital price.
If we had known about the fact that smoke doesn't stay in the unit that causes it, we wouldn't have gotten a condo without a HOA that forbid smoking.
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