Fine, so it is my day for posting links.

and then, randomly, there was a STARGATE: ATLANTIS Fandom Primer on your flist. by [livejournal.com profile] bookshop, in which she tells a terrifying amount of truth about a not-so-great-show and the fandom that is the equivalent of a Grateful Dead concert.

Also, this.

Certain fics are written entirely in mathematics. Certain fics are written entirely in made up languages. Certain fics are structured around theoretical physics. It's not that you never see these things in other fandoms, but SGA is the only fandom that sees them on such a consistent and pervasive level.

And sometimes, we did all three at once.

I also call it how [livejournal.com profile] astolat made me google freaking unsolvable math problems on a regular basis. And let me say, for no other fandom would I read The Elegant Universe nor make sense of it by slashing quantum physics with relativity while reading and finding the quarks named Top and Bottom proof of Sheppard/McKay's true love.

And then there's entanglement theory, which one horrible day I sat up and thought "I hate math. When did this become my life? And where the fuck are the numbers in this equation? And why am I excited some guy in Jerusalem solved the Road Colouring Problem?"

(Please don't ask. Just know I bought a box of colored pens and toothpicks and tried to model it three-dimensionally and I have no fucking clue what you do with that. It's pretty though, in three colors that always know where they're going, if they don't know where they've been.)

Thank you SGA. You have totally screwed me for life.

From: [identity profile] nestra.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:18 am (UTC)
Yes, for me it was the fandom where I thought "Fuck, I hate math. Wait, maybe I can make Rodney a musician!"

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:29 am (UTC)
I sometimes think half the reason SGA had such a bountiful market of AUs was in fact terror.
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From: [personal profile] ariadne83 Date: 2009-03-04 09:11 am (UTC)
Ahahaha I'm sure this is true.

From: [identity profile] kassrachel.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:34 am (UTC)
I &hearts this fandom so unreasonably much, there kind of aren't words. :-)

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:37 am (UTC)
SGA is made of terrifying, crackifying awesome.
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From: [identity profile] suaine.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:36 am (UTC)
A fandom that can have both fic about theoretical physics and people as girl scout cookies has got to be some kind of milestone.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:38 am (UTC)
This. And as plants. And as a unicorn and a rainbow.

Oh SGA. You rock my world.
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From: [identity profile] suaine.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:39 am (UTC)
OH GOD THE UNICORN/RAINBOW FIC WAS AWESOME BEYOND THE TELLING. Uhm. You know. *loves SGA fandom*
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From: [identity profile] vito-excalibur.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 08:05 am (UTC)
It expanded the boundaries of my concepts of fanfic, that's for damn sure.

From: [identity profile] djinanna.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 07:39 pm (UTC)
And PENGUINS!!!
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From: [personal profile] trobadora Date: 2009-03-04 12:40 am (UTC)
There are so many awesome things about SGA fandom. ♥

But why can no one say anything good about it these days without harping on about how awful they think the show is? I'm so fucking tired of that. :-(

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:58 am (UTC)
*hugs you* SGA was fun to watch. And had some good eps.

From: [identity profile] cobweb-diamond.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:43 am (UTC)
on the bright side, you are not alone.

it's like a cult. a friendly, non-invasive cult that is scattered randomly around the world and is made up of people who spend their lunch-hours googling obscure russian composers, military strategy, cookie recipes, norse mythology and unsolvable math problems, all for research in the same fic.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:58 am (UTC)
Oh my God the truth in that.

From: [identity profile] cesperanza.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:46 am (UTC)
My life flashed before my eyes.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:51 am (UTC)
I just went to stare at my webpage and reflect the amount of time I spent researching whether C-4 mixed with salt could kill Cthulhu and Ancients. And the one where I mapped the entirety of the southwest US and Mexico.

SGA - the fandom that taught me research. So. Much. Research. And that doesn't even count the stuff I read to understand other people's fic.

From: [identity profile] cesperanza.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:05 am (UTC)
I know! I could really wring TPTB's necks for the travesty of season 5: it's like a primer on how to kill a fandom. I am holding out great hopes for the damn movie (yes, I know, I know, I'm a fool, sigh.)

From: [identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-05 01:26 am (UTC)
I could really wring TPTB's necks for the travesty of season 5: it's like a primer on how to kill a fandom.

This. I enjoyed the first half well enough, but the last half? I could feel my interest in the show plummet by the episode. If I didn't love the characters so much I would've bailed early.

From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:49 am (UTC)
This was the most awesome of awesomes. Thanks for the rec.

I bought a book at Barnes and Noble called "The little book of Mathematical Principles."

I KNOW.

::shudders::
edited at: Date: 2009-03-04 12:50 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:58 am (UTC)
*falls over and dies*

From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:03 am (UTC)
And, and, and, I sit there and try to understand them.

You may ask, whose fault is this? ::points at icon:: I'm learning math so Rodney and John can teach it to their baby.

I AM ALSO RESEARCHING CHILD DEVELOPMENT. Since I have no child of my own to warp study.

But it's the math that's really troubling. What have I done? I was a mild-mannered English and Theater major. I was just innocently minding my own business, looking at the hot mens. Heellllllp meeeeee.
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From: [personal profile] ariadne83 Date: 2009-03-04 09:17 am (UTC)
I'm learning math so Rodney and John can teach it to their baby.


AHAHAHA I love this fandom.

I was just innocently minding my own business, looking at the hot mens. Heellllllp meeeeee.

*throws a lifeline*

From: [identity profile] djinanna.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-05 12:48 pm (UTC)
::shifty eyes::

furtively wish-lists on Amazon

From: [identity profile] littledrop.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:49 am (UTC)
That is the most hilarious fandom primer I have ever read. EVER. *gggg*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:58 am (UTC)
It totally was.
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From: [identity profile] norabombay.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:49 am (UTC)
I'm currently working on a Big Brother AU.

I think I have nothing to add to this conversation.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:59 am (UTC)
*falls over and dies laughing*
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From: [identity profile] norabombay.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:14 am (UTC)
R. Dex talks a lot. A lot lot. A lot lot lot. During his time in the diary room.

Carson, kicked off early, taught them to make halucinogens out of slop.

EPIC games of prime not prime. Teyla beating people with sticks.

John and Rodney constantly having sex on the live feeds.

EVERY one of Rodney's ex-students, co-workers, and the physics community purchasing the live feeds, and making whole blogs devoted to how much they hate him.

Plus, naked hot tub orgies, cause, duh, this is Big Brother.
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From: [personal profile] ariadne83 Date: 2009-03-04 09:22 am (UTC)
R. Dex talks a lot. A lot lot. A lot lot lot. During his time in the diary room. *cries laughing*

From: [identity profile] tonicollins.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:50 am (UTC)
Thank you SGA. You have totally screwed me for life.

But in such a good way. *g* I, for one, will always enjoy Crimes Against Humanity and Teacher's Pet and Rain Gods and damn, pretty much everything you've written in this fandom.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 12:59 am (UTC)
*glows* Thank you!
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From: [identity profile] mrshamill.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:04 am (UTC)
Hey, it's cool, I had to re-learn cosmology and particle physics. Nothing wrong with that, aside from my brain exploding.

From: [identity profile] cleito.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:12 am (UTC)
Someone once said SGA was the little black dress of fandom... it's in everyone's closet, and can be accessorized for any occasion. Just like McShep.

As to the crack... I seem to remember ice cubes at one point.

From: [identity profile] mary-russell11.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:20 am (UTC)
SGA made me google M-theory. and I'm an English major who writes obscure essays on Shakespeare.*headdesks* yeah. also, your Crimes against humanity brought out my heretofore undiscovered love for psychopaths in love ??*says with a wavering voice* god*facepalms*

From: [identity profile] droolfangrrl.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:20 am (UTC)
road coloring what?

*investigates*

"In graph theory the road coloring theorem, known until recently as the road coloring conjecture, deals with synchronized instructions. The issue involves whether by using such instructions, one can reach or locate an object or destination from any other point within a network (which might be a representation of city streets or a maze)....
[snip]
This theorem also has implications in symbolic dynamics."

Argh, I hate not understanding stuff!

I think I need to blame you.
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From: [identity profile] kimberlyfdr.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:28 am (UTC)
SGA allowed me to be able to proudly show my love for Neil deGrasse Tyson and people finally UNDERSTOOD :)
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From: [identity profile] lurkmuch.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:58 am (UTC)
GOD. So funny. So, *so* true.


Other fandoms don't make you learn math to understand the deeper layers of their porn!!

From: [identity profile] hyperfocused.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 02:00 am (UTC)
There's a reason I haven't yet written the Rodney's a molecular gastronomist, and John's a Mr Wizard type: abject hear I'll get even this science wrong.
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From: [personal profile] aurora Date: 2009-03-04 02:21 am (UTC)
Best fandom ever. ♥♥ (And yeah, math still gives me headaches, despite all porn.)

From: [identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 04:10 am (UTC)

god, basically ALL i retained about physics came from reading SGA fic. It's not even funny. And the UNSOLVABLE MATH PROBLEMS. and. and. yeah. :D it is basically one giant geekgasm.

From: [identity profile] samdonne.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 07:57 am (UTC)
there is just no point in being in this fandom if you don't ship McShep

Expected an SGA fandom primer and got a McShep fandom primer instead. Par for the course, I guess.
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From: [identity profile] scrollgirl.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 08:16 pm (UTC)
[livejournal.com profile] bookshop has since edited to clarify it's supposed to be a McShep primer, not a show primer.

But yeah, par for the course. *waves rare pairing flag*

From: [identity profile] almostnever.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 07:58 am (UTC)
I've been scouting astrophysics forums and reading the threads to try to find math for John to impress Rodney with, and/or grist for convincing McKay-Zelenka science arguments.

*cries a little*

In my case it's actually the AUs that are the tricky part, because I feel like I have to show John's smarts to Rodney afresh, whereas in canon, they've already done that, so I can just go *handwave* blah blah ALIENS blah blah ANCIENT DEVICE blah TEAM blah John and Rodney, GO.

From: [identity profile] cjandre.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 01:21 pm (UTC)
LOL

I was reading the primer and laughing, until I remembered that I got just the tiniest bit offended by a review of "Something to Remind You" when person commented that they were a little horrified that Rodney thought prime numbers were sexy.

First - Well of COURSE he thinks that!

Second - What? NO! He was obsessing on prime numbers, and there really are pairs of numbers called <a=href"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sexy_prime">"The Sexy Primes"!(p,p+6)! The 'sexy' part comes from the sexual frustration of mathmetics students who know Latin!

I mean, can't you see Rodney and his math geek friends snickering as they learned about this group of prime numbers "The Sexy Primes" - it would be so HIM!

LOL

I remember being sad that someone didn't get my little bit of characterization wrapped up in math! I don't think I've ever been in a fandom where I was sad that someone didn't get one of my math references!!

*happy days before all my writing time was spent on paying non-fiction work*

From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-04 06:11 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for that link - brilliant. And so true.

I learned General Relativity for a fic. Without even an A-Level (er...'end of High School'-level) in Maths. I read Latin, for heaven's sake? Why do I have all these books on physics?!? Having said that, I also translated SGA poetry into Latin. I can think of no other fandom for which I would do this.

Is the Road Colouring Problem like the Four Colour Map problem? Actually, *looks furtive* forget I said that because I can just *see* the AU where each of the team members is one of the colours and it's going downhill from there...

The only thing worse? Having written all this (genetics! multi-dimensional knitting!) for SGA I now look at Numb3rs and Criminal Minds fic and go "HAH! You call that difficult? I'll give you difficult." I then lose what's left of my brain to cryptic crosswords and serial killers.

No fandom can be the same again.

From: [identity profile] issaro.livejournal.com Date: 2009-03-08 06:25 am (UTC)
and then, randomly, there was a STARGATE: ATLANTIS Fandom Primer on your flist. by bookshop

Generally, I read maybe 3 SGA stories out of every hundred fanfics I read. But considering the other 97 are SPN, those 3 represent a *huge* commitment. A post like that makes me happy and you pointing it out so us non-SGA people can *find* it, makes me happier.

I'll forever blame sleepover for my SGA adulterous tendencies.

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