So today, I thought, ahh, fandom will have a nice wind down and start mocking something that doesn't cause us all rage blackouts and whatnot. Which is true and false.

Law and Order: London (gakked from [livejournal.com profile] tzikeh)
No, really.

Law and Order: London
What would that Law & Order "clonk-clonk" noise (see video) sound like with a British accent?

We'll find out this fall when the Dick Wolf-produced legal franchise heads overseas with ITV's Law and Order: London.

Okay. Martha from Dr. Who and Apollo from BSG in Law and Order. I have no idea how I am going to wait for the premiere and not have some kind of cognitive break. I also start a countdown on the first LAO/Dr. Who crossover, which even if it's bad, is going to be awesome. It just is.

Jensenvention (gakked from--well, a lot of places)
It took several reads, a google cache search, and two people to explain to me what I was reading.

Explanation here. And an explanation of Jensenvention here. I think I worked it out. Never said I was all that great at deductive reasoning.

Here's what I got: correct me if I'm wrong.

So there is a website, Jensenvention. It is satire regarding Jensen Ackles life and career. It got a C&D and was shut down. some people are upset.

Hmm. Google cache of FAQ. (PS HIGHLIGHT THE PAGE TO READ)

Syne and Internet Business
For those curious, [livejournal.com profile] synecdochic posted Internet Business Numbers for the Layperson.
So, thanks to several simultaneous issues going around, there are a number of people who are pointing at various internet properties that "fandom" uses and trying to place a valuation on them: how much money they're bringing in, what their operating costs are, and how much 'profit' they're making. I don't want to link to any of those conversations, because (IMO) every one that I've seen has some serious flaws in their methodology, either by overestimating income or underestimating costs, leading to vastly-inflated figures (for cost, income, or profit) being bandied about, and I don't want to perpetuate them. What I do want to do is talk a little bit about methodology, about how to make a estimation of the economics of an Internet property, and more importantly, how to spot grossly inflated numbers when they're slung around in an argument.

Some enlightening and nicely non-technical explanations of income, profit, overhead, and other--stuff. Did I mention I have not and never wanted to be a businessperson? Yeah. But if I can understand it, anyone can.

And with that, I am going to read something in porn. Maybe with handcuffs. It just depends.
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From: [identity profile] machinistm.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 06:54 pm (UTC)
Jensen Jeckles

Ackles. *koffs*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:00 pm (UTC)
*sighs* I have never in history managed to spell his last name right. Fixed.
ext_2524: do what you like (spn: dean think on it)

From: [identity profile] slodwick.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:02 pm (UTC)
What's sad is that I read it and never noticed a thing -- in fact, I think I like your version better.
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From: [identity profile] machinistm.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:08 pm (UTC)
It's definitely an improvement from Achols.

From: [identity profile] drlense.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 06:55 pm (UTC)
Jensenvention

Um. WHAT??
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From: [identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 06:55 pm (UTC)
The Jensen-stuff makes me feel like a real, established BOFQ. Because I was there when FOX systematically tried to take just about everything it got its grubby hands on. So -- old. And bitter. Yes.

Handcuffs?

From: [identity profile] eleveninches.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 06:55 pm (UTC)
I can't WAIT for L&O: UK. I'm not even kidding. It can be terrible and I'll still love it, because it combines some of my favourite things: Martha Jones, Lee Adama, law, and -- don't forget -- order.
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From: [identity profile] svmadelyn.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:52 pm (UTC)
Mmm. Order.
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From: [personal profile] aurora Date: 2008-07-29 09:35 pm (UTC)
YES. THAT.

Bring it on! \o/
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From: [identity profile] cereta.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 06:57 pm (UTC)
I think you mean a C&D. A D&C is...something else entirely ;).
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From: [personal profile] sholio Date: 2008-07-29 06:59 pm (UTC)
*dies*

I thought there was something off about that sentence, but couldn't quite put my finger on it.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:01 pm (UTC)
*thoughtful* I dunno. An argument could be made for similarity of purpose.
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From: [identity profile] cereta.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:14 pm (UTC)
Fair point ;).

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:17 pm (UTC)
Well, keep in mind in voyager, I wrote an entire fic calling this drug that cause people to become possessed by aliens RU486. Several months later, someone finally asked if I'd been going for some kind of dramatic irony.

*sad* And the thing is? I'd *known* it seemed familiar but just never, you know, *checked why*.
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From: [identity profile] slodwick.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:01 pm (UTC)
No matter how many times I read "Apollo from BSG", I kept reading it as "Helo", and I was confused why they would pick a Canadian man-mountain with questionable acting skills (though quite attractive (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/images/cast/cast_helo.jpg), to be sure) to be on their English law enforcement show.

Bamber makes WAY more sense.

(SQUEE MARTHA.)
edited at: Date: 2008-07-29 07:03 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] delle.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:09 pm (UTC)
do we have any idea yet if the show will be available in the US? because Apollo + Martha makes my mind explode (I was going to post something else, but I don't think anyone wants to know that much about me.... LOL)
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From: [personal profile] grammarwoman Date: 2008-07-29 08:11 pm (UTC)
No matter how many times I read "Apollo from BSG", I kept reading it as "Helo", and I was confused why they would pick a Canadian man-mountain with questionable acting skills (though quite attractive, to be sure) to be on their English law enforcement show.

Not to mention that Tahmoh Penikett is already doing Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse"...

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:03 pm (UTC)
Much to ponder.

Do you read Sam/Dean? I could send you porn, though it's more holding down than handcuffs.

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:11 pm (UTC)
I am a fangirl; I am contractually *required* as a slasher to read Sam/Dean.

In other words--PLEASE?
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From: [identity profile] x-pixel-x.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 08:37 pm (UTC)
I am a fangirl; I am contractually *required* as a slasher to read Sam/Dean.

You mean I can use this as a legitimate excuse? *is stunned*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 08:39 pm (UTC)
Ooh yeah. It's in the fine print.
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From: [identity profile] x-pixel-x.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 08:44 pm (UTC)
Sweet.
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From: [personal profile] ratcreature Date: 2008-07-29 09:01 pm (UTC)
I am? Yikes! I knew there was a reason why I'm more prone to self-identify as a general fan reading everything including slash than as a slasher... Well that, and that this way I don't have to write a meta post on "why I like slash". Though actually I think I did that -- once, like on a list-serv in the 90s, I guess it is an inevitable rite of passage in fanfic fandom to have to write a meta post on why you like (or don't like) slash...
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From: [personal profile] cofax7 Date: 2008-07-30 02:52 am (UTC)
I read and write slash occasionally: I certainly don't feel obligated to read Sam/Dean. Or any other pairing, frankly.

::shrugs::
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From: [identity profile] vito-excalibur.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-30 02:03 pm (UTC)
Hoy, I'm not seeing any links here!

From: [identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-30 03:38 pm (UTC)
To be posted later today, I think!

From: [identity profile] mary-russell11.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:12 pm (UTC)
hmm...I've commented on other sites on this, but I'll repeat myself; don't watch Supernatural, don't care one way or the other about Jensen whatever but threatening a fan website that gets 30 hits per day with legal action??personally, it screams douchebag to me*smirks* L&O:London???*ponders on that* handcuffs you say??sometimes you are downright inspiring*goes off in search of handcuffs fics*

From: [identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:13 pm (UTC)
*giggles* I hit two or three dS ones involving handcuffs and was--put in the mood.

From: [identity profile] mary-russell11.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:21 pm (UTC)
be a pall and rec some,eh??thank you kindly*smirks*

From: [identity profile] nilla.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:34 pm (UTC)
I saw the Jensenvention thing a few months ago and I'm not surprised at the C&D. I have to agree with [livejournal.com profile] nardasarmy's post (http://nardasarmy.livejournal.com/931145.html?format=light) re: this. It's the stupidest wank from Supernatural and the Supernatural fandom (especially Jensen's fangirls/boys/whatthefuckever) makes me want to punch kittens... At least they are good for the LULZ.

From: [identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:36 pm (UTC)
More partly_bouncy fun here (http://ffnetlf.tripod.com/ecksmanifesto.htm) -- This is her flounce out of ff.net in 2001.

She can't take the hypocricy! She wants to be able to delete her posts and accounts! She was backed into a corner! How dare they retain information about her on their site when she's asked them to take it down!
"Why am I sharing this information with you? I thought LONG and hard before deciding to draft and post this note. I wish to be associated with people are nice, open and honest... Why am I leaving? At this point, I cannot take the abuse, pettiness, lies and hypocrisy... One of the things I demand from my friends and associates is honesty. I try to be as honest with my friends and associates as possible. I do not tolerate hypocrisy and insults. In a private e-mail correspondence, Steven called me immature. (I would beg to differ on many levels.)"
Man, the world really *does* revolve around her.

THE IRONY, IT BURNS US, PRECIOUSSSSS.

From: [identity profile] tex.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 07:55 pm (UTC)
I thought the L&O:London was a joke!

*blinks* Is it??

From: [identity profile] inthekeyofd.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 08:00 pm (UTC)
It's not, they got the writer from Torchwood and everything..freakin' Dick Wolfe snags up all the good ones!!

From: [identity profile] inthekeyofd.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 08:00 pm (UTC)
I have to say, I'm really surprised that I knew about the L&O casting last week..because usually I'm the last one to know anything. *smile*

don't you lie about LO:London

From: [identity profile] katelennon.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-29 11:42 pm (UTC)
DON"T YOU DARE

I will be sooooo heart-broken if you've teased me with the possibility of Jamie in the suit.

I will totally spam you with my little pony porn. And maybe even care bear porn.



I for one, am amused beyond the telling about the C&D. Really, did they think this wasn't going to happen? Seriously?? Management has literally NO sense of humor.

I can't wait to hear about this at the November Con; it's so going to be a question, I can just FEEL it. Meh.
cofax7: climbing on an abbey wall  (Default)

From: [personal profile] cofax7 Date: 2008-07-30 03:20 am (UTC)
[livejournal.com profile] morgandawn thinks it was a real lawsuit filed. Which is really damned unusual, actually: there's no harm in sending a C&D first.

Huh.
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From: [personal profile] jcalanthe Date: 2008-07-30 07:33 am (UTC)
Wow, I'm totally ded from the hotness of L&O London. Brilliant move, Dick Wolf.

From: [identity profile] hawkmoth.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-30 11:35 am (UTC)
I've only become a L&O junkie fan in the past year...(and had to suffer the loss of Jesse Martin AND Adam Beach!) so the London news is making my head go blooey. Jamie back to his native accent? Oh yes!
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From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken Date: 2008-07-30 03:16 pm (UTC)
I had heard about the L&O: London in the context of fannish rumors bouncing around regarding whether this means we won't have Martha (along with Mickey) added to next season's Torchwood cast (and hence the TW writers had to throw out a bunch of the scripts they already had done for the season and were therefore pissed about it, due to making assumptions about having Freema when the contract hadn't actually been signed yet), or else whether the short British season length means she'll actually manage to be on both.

Also, thanks to my Hornblower viewing, I think Bamber using his native accent is going to have me thinking Lt. Archie Kennedy rather than Apollo. (Though then again there was a certain element of watching Mr. Fantastic/Lancelot plus Apollo and the Eighth Doctor in the Napoleonic Era Royal Navy...)

From: [identity profile] mylenn.livejournal.com Date: 2008-07-31 05:28 pm (UTC)
There's going to be a L&O UK? With Martha?? Oooooo... I cna;t wait for the crossover fic! It'll be fabulous!

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