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Wednesday, September 20th, 2006 02:00 pm
midday, later than
It was actually kind of funny.
When I woke up this morning, my mouth tasted very--blue. Silvery blue, metal but not blood, but I ignored it and got dressed. By ten, the ache in my cheekbone sent me to our new supervisor, who looked me over with a half smile when I said I could probably last two more hours but I really didn't think I'd make it through the rest of the day. She nodded and remarked she hadn't thought I'd come in today, considering, which made me think, God, did I look that bad?
Apparently, yes.
So I sat down and took twenty five calls in two hours, or about what most of my unit takes all day to answer, bringing me to forty-seven or so, which is how many I usually answer in a day. Part of it was distraction and to make up for the fact I'd be out in the afternoon. Mostly, I'm making my unit look like shit comparatively speaking. And you have no idea how very much I don't care. Could be how tired I am, or my jaw ache, or the fact that the stitches in my gum came out spontaneously at work yesterday and freaked me out--but you know. I don't have time to be mediocre.
I can't take narcotics at work--my attention span isn't great on my best days, and as a friend last night remarked, it's hard to talk to me when I'm up because I can't track multiple conversational topics well. It's--frustrating. I guess it's also a little embarrassing.
But anyway, home, drinking warm milk and trying to check for swelling on my gum and cheekbone.
Right now, more comfort fic. It's a habit. When I feel like crap, I like to make other people feel good. So.
Your Cowboy Days Are Over (Mammas, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Cowboys) by![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
samdonne
I don't think, even to the author, I've really been able to articulate why this story is right now my favorite, bar none, in any fandom. A lot of it is the worldbuilding, which is extraordinarily rich and detailed, that she made familiar and real so fast it's hard to believe it's not canon. A lot of it is the range of characters used--from Ekaterin and Ben--God, *Ben*--to Kolya, whose extraordinary characterization and utilization still leaves me breathless and a little sad that canon would never take this path. The sheer quality of the writing is a given.
"He doesn't feed on anyone else," John says, head hanging heavy, adrenaline fading out of his system. "And he takes almost nothing."
Hours, maybe days of his life. John would never have found a better use for that time.
My favorite lines. Just getting that out of the way.
I started the story one third down--I thought I'd skim, just to see, becauseisilya's rec had been so adamant and I tend to trust where she leads, and I started to skim, got caught up in a paragraph, and gave up trying to save myself trauma and went with it, resigned to being gutted or my mind blown or both. And I was, but in the way I love best.
John is amazing. He's--everything we've seen in tiny slices of the show, everything that's been hinted, but so much more. Extraordinarily complicated, that we already knew, but simple, too, stubborn and broken and never quite healed right. Ben was his--catalyst. In the story, he's a person, but he's also a symbol, a door that John walks through willingly, knowing what's on the other side. I guess as a parent, I understood the single-minded need to protect, the inability to give up--and i know how cliched that sounds, I do. When everything else is wiped away, everything *changes* when that responsibility became his, a burden that's not a burden, when everything crystalized for him, clarified in Ben--that was when I knew I'd love this story, even if it hurt. Ben's his salvation in a way, and he comes out after Ben's death completely broken but so bright, everything of him that wasn't necessary burned away, and he's--not just getting through this by the end. He's coming out on the other side as a differnet person, a better person, because of what he learned as a father and what he learned as a man, of the man he wanted to be for Ben--that man stayed. The life he had with his child stripped away the indifference and the calm and the superficiality and left him somewhere else. And he's just learning, at the end, where that is, and how to live there. Ben made John native, bound him to Pegasus in a way that's personal, and lasting.
I still get weird and soft when I read it, the fierce grief and the need to go on.
His relatinoship with Kolya, even more than that with Ben, completely held my attention from the first word. Enemy, yes, and uncertain almost-ally, but later, not quite a friend, but far more than an acquaintance. Kolya's journey from the man who held them at gunpoint in The Brotherhood to the man who contacted John on the planet is all in the asides and the small differences, the way Kolya understands, perhaps better than John does, what John could become. I think, in some ways, the exile after Brotherhood purified Kolya too, stripping away pride and vengeance, clarifying him and what he wanted, more than mere freedom for his people, but freedom for his galaxy. Becoming part of something bigger, and far, far more important and more powerful.
I can't really get how this affected me as a reader--John's journey, Kolya's--Rodney and Ronon coming to John exactly when they were most needed, Teyla's steady presence with John throughout the story, his grounding, the way she acted as his link to his old life, so when Ronon and Rodney came back, the three of them--I don't know the words. They linked him with who he was before Ben, so he could go on after Ben with what he'd learned from that. I'm simplifying badly something extraordinary and complex and utterly fantastic here.
Okay, going ot numbers. I keep getting incoherent when I try to explain feelings.
1.) I love that Teyla came with him, acted as his friend, his support, his grounding, keeping him from becoming consumed by his son, his own guilt, his new life, reminding him with her presence of who he used to be. I love how she was easy and she was honest and that she loved him and she loved Ben. I love that everything that makes her extraordinary--her strength, her compassion, her wisdom and her loyalty--are showcased here so thoroughly and so lovingly by someone who genuinely likes the character. It would have been so easy to make her background for John and his life, but she wasn't, was an integral part of him and the life he built with Ben.
2.) The planet was *amazing*. Glittery and bright and slick and alien and not--the best of modern sci-fi here, with all these bits of William Gibson that made me smile and go, yes. It could be like this. The use of memory as currency was beyond creepy and utterly fascinating and *useful* and understandable.
3.) Kolya, Kolya, Kolya--a man on a mission, obsessed and driven and hard, but he's *learned*. He grew up, too, realizing how much more he could be than a Genii thug or terrorist. That there was an entire galaxy out there being terrorized, that just maybe, a single people couldn't accomplish the destruction of the Wraith, that maybe the galaxy itself needed to work together to gain their freedom. His compassion with John never surprised me, though I guess it should have--but there's never been a lack of respect between them, never not known the measure of the other, and the circumstances they're in now let the similiarities shine through.
Also, he shingles John's roof. God. I loved that so much.
4.) Rodney (Ronon, Team). This was, in a lot of ways, also partly a team fic. They never stopped believing, trusting each other. I loved that Rodney came to John, by accident or design, exactly the second he was needed most. I love that John brought out the best of what Rodney is--brilliant and goofy and extraordinarily insightful when it's someone he loves, kind when it's most important, *there* when it matters the most, always honest, and completely immune to John's charm and never fooled by John's exterior. These are the parts that canon hints at, emphasizing the selfishness and arrogance and forgetting sometimes that Rodney, like everyone else in this story, is a work in progress himself, growing into something more and something better. I love that Rodney and Ronon and Teyla are attuned to John, understand him, give him grounding through the last half of the story, love that they support him because he's John and because they believe in what he's doing.
5.) Ekaterinn was *interesting*--an ally that wasn't entirely good but not dark so much as prioritized. It's hard for me to get a grip on her--I understood her motives, and the motives of her people, why they did what they did, and how they worked around their own chosen restrictions to help others in their fight against the Wraith. But she really has to be read in context--I liked her and I hated her, but I also understood where she was coming from, too.
I thought I'd be able to write more, but instead, I'm going to curl up for a bit until the drugs kick in.
When I woke up this morning, my mouth tasted very--blue. Silvery blue, metal but not blood, but I ignored it and got dressed. By ten, the ache in my cheekbone sent me to our new supervisor, who looked me over with a half smile when I said I could probably last two more hours but I really didn't think I'd make it through the rest of the day. She nodded and remarked she hadn't thought I'd come in today, considering, which made me think, God, did I look that bad?
Apparently, yes.
So I sat down and took twenty five calls in two hours, or about what most of my unit takes all day to answer, bringing me to forty-seven or so, which is how many I usually answer in a day. Part of it was distraction and to make up for the fact I'd be out in the afternoon. Mostly, I'm making my unit look like shit comparatively speaking. And you have no idea how very much I don't care. Could be how tired I am, or my jaw ache, or the fact that the stitches in my gum came out spontaneously at work yesterday and freaked me out--but you know. I don't have time to be mediocre.
I can't take narcotics at work--my attention span isn't great on my best days, and as a friend last night remarked, it's hard to talk to me when I'm up because I can't track multiple conversational topics well. It's--frustrating. I guess it's also a little embarrassing.
But anyway, home, drinking warm milk and trying to check for swelling on my gum and cheekbone.
Right now, more comfort fic. It's a habit. When I feel like crap, I like to make other people feel good. So.
Your Cowboy Days Are Over (Mammas, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Cowboys) by
samdonneI don't think, even to the author, I've really been able to articulate why this story is right now my favorite, bar none, in any fandom. A lot of it is the worldbuilding, which is extraordinarily rich and detailed, that she made familiar and real so fast it's hard to believe it's not canon. A lot of it is the range of characters used--from Ekaterin and Ben--God, *Ben*--to Kolya, whose extraordinary characterization and utilization still leaves me breathless and a little sad that canon would never take this path. The sheer quality of the writing is a given.
"He doesn't feed on anyone else," John says, head hanging heavy, adrenaline fading out of his system. "And he takes almost nothing."
Hours, maybe days of his life. John would never have found a better use for that time.
My favorite lines. Just getting that out of the way.
I started the story one third down--I thought I'd skim, just to see, because
isilya's rec had been so adamant and I tend to trust where she leads, and I started to skim, got caught up in a paragraph, and gave up trying to save myself trauma and went with it, resigned to being gutted or my mind blown or both. And I was, but in the way I love best.John is amazing. He's--everything we've seen in tiny slices of the show, everything that's been hinted, but so much more. Extraordinarily complicated, that we already knew, but simple, too, stubborn and broken and never quite healed right. Ben was his--catalyst. In the story, he's a person, but he's also a symbol, a door that John walks through willingly, knowing what's on the other side. I guess as a parent, I understood the single-minded need to protect, the inability to give up--and i know how cliched that sounds, I do. When everything else is wiped away, everything *changes* when that responsibility became his, a burden that's not a burden, when everything crystalized for him, clarified in Ben--that was when I knew I'd love this story, even if it hurt. Ben's his salvation in a way, and he comes out after Ben's death completely broken but so bright, everything of him that wasn't necessary burned away, and he's--not just getting through this by the end. He's coming out on the other side as a differnet person, a better person, because of what he learned as a father and what he learned as a man, of the man he wanted to be for Ben--that man stayed. The life he had with his child stripped away the indifference and the calm and the superficiality and left him somewhere else. And he's just learning, at the end, where that is, and how to live there. Ben made John native, bound him to Pegasus in a way that's personal, and lasting.
I still get weird and soft when I read it, the fierce grief and the need to go on.
His relatinoship with Kolya, even more than that with Ben, completely held my attention from the first word. Enemy, yes, and uncertain almost-ally, but later, not quite a friend, but far more than an acquaintance. Kolya's journey from the man who held them at gunpoint in The Brotherhood to the man who contacted John on the planet is all in the asides and the small differences, the way Kolya understands, perhaps better than John does, what John could become. I think, in some ways, the exile after Brotherhood purified Kolya too, stripping away pride and vengeance, clarifying him and what he wanted, more than mere freedom for his people, but freedom for his galaxy. Becoming part of something bigger, and far, far more important and more powerful.
I can't really get how this affected me as a reader--John's journey, Kolya's--Rodney and Ronon coming to John exactly when they were most needed, Teyla's steady presence with John throughout the story, his grounding, the way she acted as his link to his old life, so when Ronon and Rodney came back, the three of them--I don't know the words. They linked him with who he was before Ben, so he could go on after Ben with what he'd learned from that. I'm simplifying badly something extraordinary and complex and utterly fantastic here.
Okay, going ot numbers. I keep getting incoherent when I try to explain feelings.
1.) I love that Teyla came with him, acted as his friend, his support, his grounding, keeping him from becoming consumed by his son, his own guilt, his new life, reminding him with her presence of who he used to be. I love how she was easy and she was honest and that she loved him and she loved Ben. I love that everything that makes her extraordinary--her strength, her compassion, her wisdom and her loyalty--are showcased here so thoroughly and so lovingly by someone who genuinely likes the character. It would have been so easy to make her background for John and his life, but she wasn't, was an integral part of him and the life he built with Ben.
2.) The planet was *amazing*. Glittery and bright and slick and alien and not--the best of modern sci-fi here, with all these bits of William Gibson that made me smile and go, yes. It could be like this. The use of memory as currency was beyond creepy and utterly fascinating and *useful* and understandable.
3.) Kolya, Kolya, Kolya--a man on a mission, obsessed and driven and hard, but he's *learned*. He grew up, too, realizing how much more he could be than a Genii thug or terrorist. That there was an entire galaxy out there being terrorized, that just maybe, a single people couldn't accomplish the destruction of the Wraith, that maybe the galaxy itself needed to work together to gain their freedom. His compassion with John never surprised me, though I guess it should have--but there's never been a lack of respect between them, never not known the measure of the other, and the circumstances they're in now let the similiarities shine through.
Also, he shingles John's roof. God. I loved that so much.
4.) Rodney (Ronon, Team). This was, in a lot of ways, also partly a team fic. They never stopped believing, trusting each other. I loved that Rodney came to John, by accident or design, exactly the second he was needed most. I love that John brought out the best of what Rodney is--brilliant and goofy and extraordinarily insightful when it's someone he loves, kind when it's most important, *there* when it matters the most, always honest, and completely immune to John's charm and never fooled by John's exterior. These are the parts that canon hints at, emphasizing the selfishness and arrogance and forgetting sometimes that Rodney, like everyone else in this story, is a work in progress himself, growing into something more and something better. I love that Rodney and Ronon and Teyla are attuned to John, understand him, give him grounding through the last half of the story, love that they support him because he's John and because they believe in what he's doing.
5.) Ekaterinn was *interesting*--an ally that wasn't entirely good but not dark so much as prioritized. It's hard for me to get a grip on her--I understood her motives, and the motives of her people, why they did what they did, and how they worked around their own chosen restrictions to help others in their fight against the Wraith. But she really has to be read in context--I liked her and I hated her, but I also understood where she was coming from, too.
I thought I'd be able to write more, but instead, I'm going to curl up for a bit until the drugs kick in.
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From:And if thats the line I'm thinking it was, that was a *joke*, not a reality.
*shrugs*
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From:Or I may re-read this one about how Rodney meets the world's most incompetant assassin . . .
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From:Still on post-fic-reading high here. Just want to smoosh it and carry it around with me all glowy and happy.
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From:He's not my One True Love (although I wouldn't kick him out of bed for eating crackers) but I, too, was completely drawn in to Cowboy Days. The quality of the writing did that, but it was assisted by an odd fannish convergence.
I spent the Spring enthralled by "Freedom's Just Another Word" and its characterization of Rodney. Ultimately, though, I am interested in the balance between John & Rodney, so I was hungry for an exploration and a development of John's character that would parallel the growing that Rodney does in "Freedom".
For me, Cowboy Days was a longed-for sequel in a fannish-emotional-zeitgeist way.
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From:Hmm. I hadn't noticed the bookending before, but yes, there is that between the two, isn't there? Huh.
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From:It hit me *hard* too, just in every way, too.
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From:God, today though, just--yeah. So perfect.
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From:Man, senility sucks.
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From:God, so good.
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From:I do the same to your's that I have saved too... ::thanks you again:: great writing is GREAT!
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From:keeping him from becoming consumed by his son
Literally.
Becoming part of something bigger, and far, far more important and more powerful.
You put it very well. Would that I had the time and stamina to write Kolya's companion piece, and watch John through his eyes.
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From:238???
Jesus.
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From:A weekday rec for months-old novel-length gen: I'd have bookmarked it to read later. *shrugs* Stories have a shelf life, and I've been around a while, I know the rules of feedback. What you don't get in the first week, you'll likely never get.
An in-depth rec like yours counts for a lot of LJ comments. I enjoy a feedback thread as much as the next writer, it goes without saying; but I might trade some of it for an open discussion of what worked and what didn't. There's got to be someone out there who thoroughly disliked Cowboy Days, more than one someone, and at this stage in the story's life cycle, I wish I'd hear from them, or about them. You can't make this kind of discussion happen; it does, or it doesn't.
I don't know about you, but I'm terrible at predicting who's going to enjoy a particular story of mine, and who won't, (which I take as a professional affront, because it's my day job to predict what people will do based on scant information). So when I get it really wrong, I burn with curiosity; but of course, it's those readers you don't hear from.
Ah, well. Life.
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From:Weird but mostly true.
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From:I'm not trying to put readers in boxes, and I'm not actively profiling anyone, God, no; it's just...a little game, because the openness of the LJ format gives you that information about potential readership. So that, if I write a long Sheppard war story, and someone has been clamoring for long Sheppard war stories, or something with Kolya in it, or John and Teyla friendship, or whatever, and I don't hear anything, I can't help but be curious and make up idle hypotheses. Inquiring minds want to know, and all that.
Weird but mostly true.
Do you think it's related to posting under the WiP format? That popularity is tied to serialization? I was never in SV, so I have no idea what went on, but did you post AHoD as a WiP, or as a finished product?
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From:One of the things I loved about QaF was we'd get these massive, hugely cliched romance style *novels* out of it, and if you're vaguey familiar with the show--no. The contrast alwasy worked for me on some really obscure level. It could be the romance lover in me that comes out on occasion that just gets this huge kick out of taking a very very rigid format and applying it to the rigid format of a show that doesn't have those particular characteristics. Especially when they genuinely manage to pull off what amounts to being a genre romance. Whether it works as far as characterization? Heh. Not so much. But it was--hmm. I'm not sure of the right way to say it, because it's insulting to the author to say I got to turn off my brain--more like turning off my sense of practicality.
The gen things--yeah, no clue where that came from. I'm still surprised. Hmm. I think a lot of it is perceived bias with not so much John focused fic in the Sheppard/McKay fandom, which allowed me to be more open to trying gen to get my John fix. Or get the John that was in tune with how I see him. And I got lucky and hit really *good* gen authors early on.
I meant particular individuals, rather than popularity overall. People who have clearly stated likes and dislikes.
See, I go to the group concept--I can usually tell on first read if something is going to be intensely popular or not. I've been off a few times, possibly the only times fandom genuinely surprises me. And not necessarily fic I like or love, either, but a--feeling about how it will be taken in general. What's always most intersting to me is when a story wins the lottery of fandom for *no reason I can fathom*. That always leads me back to wanting to look at trends in fandom and see if it's a glut on the market of one type of fic that makes one that's a differnt type unique, or if it's the result of reccers--usually several high profile reccers--picking it up.
Do you think it's related to posting under the WiP format? That popularity is tied to serialization? I was never in SV, so I have no idea what went on, but did you post AHoD as a WiP, or as a finished product?
No, it was posted all at once in a gulp. In SV at that time, I was writing fast enough and intensely enough that I never had time to think of serializing it. And it was popular for reasons that I think had very little to do with me--it came at a time when darkfic of that type was extraordinarily rare, Te had just posted the wildly popular Past Grief, so everyone wanted more dystopia, she was acting as my beta so there was name recognition, and it posited Lex as heroic (sort of) and Clark as the villian (kind of), which was different. When I posted, I figured it would either hit all the way (people would love it a lot or hate it a lot, both reactions being excellent) or miss completely (have no idea what this was supposed to be or what I was trying to do with it). I got very lucky and got reaction one.
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From:I'm sorry, I phrased that paragraph badly. By "this story" I meant Cowboy Days. I wasn't making any reference to your recent BDSM rec, of which I really know nothing about.
It could be the romance lover in me that comes out on occasion
This is going to sound odd, but I'm conducting an impromptu survey. Do you read the same genres in fanfic and in original fiction? Like, romance all the time, or sci fi all the time; or do you have genres you'll read in FF, but not in OF, or vice versa?
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From:That! That. *points wildly* That's why I love it.
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