Friday, June 2nd, 2006 11:48 pm

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[livejournal.com profile] fatuorum has Degrees of John Sheppard, or what fics work for you in John characterization? Which is fascinating and also brought epiphany for me personally--that one, I like the gen John writers best in terms of characterization, and in slash, I have a strong preference for a John through another character's perception.

I like epiphanies. I mean, if I were less lazy? I'd totally be explaining here in scary detail exactly why MVP works for me perfectly as a perception of a screwed-up John while, say, most screwed-up John stories, no matter how much I like them, don't connect like that.

But I am lazy. And you should go comment now. I mean, to her. Not to me. I am just sitting here with desert porn tryingn to figure out if just writing an unsubstantiated sex scene is really a bad thing.

From: [identity profile] no-detective.livejournal.com Date: 2006-06-03 05:16 am (UTC)
Oh, yes - yay epiphanies! Here's something I said to Speranza about that fic; sorry about the cut+paste action, but I'm exhausted...

...that's why THE WAY Rodney loves him in this fic, the way Rodney looks at him/after him and worries about him and interprets some arguably quite shitty behavior as acceptable and understandable and even hopeful - oh, that just gets me where I live. Not only did you write Rodney in a way that made me empathize with him the way I haven't until now (I'm too invested in John and have been since day one); you've also placed me, reader and fangirl, in a position I haven't expected AT ALL from ANY fic.

It's as if you've raised a mirror to fangirling John as I experience it, to the fan's power of interpretation of a beloved character, except you've also shown how limited or easily manipulated or even blind that interpretation can be, because we see so many "readings" of John (inside the story, particularly: for both John and Rodney, for both their relationship and the way they view/value each other AND themselves); and by doing so, it's as if you have RECOGNIZED and NAMED and maybe even PETTED a little THE SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS I feel as a fan about what I love, hate, see, read in my favorite characters. [...] This fic, which - in my mind's eye - stretches John between woobiefied object (by Rodney, via that psych evaluation) and needy, maybe deliberately oblivious, at times cruel-simply-by-being-active subject (by the way he is shown to us) offers that PERFECTLY BALANCED AMBIGUITY, the reason I'm drawn to him so much, and I STILL have no words to tell you how happy I am that this story EXISTS, period.


I... really like MVP. A lot. And I think I'll go post this in [livejournal.com profile] fatuorum's LJ as well, as I probably should have done in the first place.

From: [identity profile] amberlc.livejournal.com Date: 2006-06-03 05:18 am (UTC)
I am just sitting here with desert porn tryingn to figure out if just writing an unsubstantiated sex scene is really a bad thing.

I'm sure it's not. It's really not. *G*

Randomly, I saw this picture of John (http://sg-atlantis.emedian.net/images/ep/s3/303/images/SGA303-0003.jpg) from Season 3 promotional photography and thought of you.

From: [identity profile] enname.livejournal.com Date: 2006-06-03 05:53 am (UTC)
Hah, where as I come down to just waving my hands around whilst pointing in order to describe the best John. Or saying that it is in his absences that you get some of the best characterisation. *hits head*

I'll go put my teeth back in and try again.

Pah, write they unsubstantiated sex scene and let us decide whether it is a bad thing or not. :P
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From: [personal profile] akacat Date: 2006-06-03 01:25 pm (UTC)
I am just sitting here with desert porn tryingn to figure out if just writing an unsubstantiated sex scene is really a bad thing.

Sometimes sex just happens.

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