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Um, took this from someone. 110 banned books thing. Bold is read, italics is skimmed/skipped around in.

Where *did* this come from? I cannot find the post! And I am *disturbingly unwell-read.

1. The Bible
2. Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
3. Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes
4. The Koran
5. Arabian Nights
6. Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
7. Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift
8. Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer - What. The. Hell #1: Offended by the use of the English language?
9. Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne - boring, boring, boring, only a school requirement could get me to read this one. I am behind it being banned for boringness. Dearest God. Also, saw the movie. Yes, that one. And strangely, it *still* didn't make the book more intersting.
10. Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman

11. Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli - What. The. Hell? #2: Banned? For what? Big Love Letter to Cesar Borgia it may be, but still.
12. Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe - I keep meaning to read this and never have.
13. Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank - I can quote this one.
14. Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert
15. Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens
16. Les Misérables by Victor Hugo - I've seen the musical. No, it doesn't count, but I'm just saying. I've seen that much.
17. Dracula by Bram Stoker - What. The. Hell? #3: No sex, no drugs, lots of really heavy making out. Also, a warning not to kiss boys the first time you see them. I'm not seeing a good ban reason.
18. Autobiography by Benjamin Franklin
19. Tom Jones by Henry Fielding
20. Essays by Michel de Montaigne

21. Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck - What. The. Hell? #4: this list isn't supposed to make sense, is it? And also. Bored me to tears. I have very low-brow reading tastes.
22. History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon
23. Tess of the D'Urbervilles by Thomas Hardy
24. Origin of Species by Charles Darwin - I have looked at it in complete non-interest.
25. Ulysses by James Joyce
26. Decameron by Giovanni Boccaccio
27. Animal Farm by George Orwell - banned for being boring? I can deal with that.
28. Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell - I saw the movie! And it was depressing. It's also the first time I saw on-screen nudity. I remember it vividly. Everyone was swearing chastity, and the girl said she adored sex. Heh.
29. Candide by Voltaire
30. To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee

31. Analects by Confucius
32. Dubliners by James Joyce
33. Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck - What. The. Hell? #5: Does a dead mouse offend a large part of the population? One of the three books that I don't regret being on my High School Required Reading list. Also, saw the newer movie. Loved.
34. Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway - this is a day of my life I can never, ever get back. I want it back. I want it BACK.
35. Red and the Black by Stendhal
36. Capital by Karl Marx - I cliffnoted this one to get through class. Blah blah blah, pretentious, long-winded, blah blah blah, shiny! You can see why me and political theory sometimes had issues. More than just me falling asleep during, so to speak.
37. Flowers of Evil by Charles Baudelaire - this sounds interesting. Is it interesting?
38. Adventures of Sherlock Holmes by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - What. The. Hell? #6: You have *got* to be kidding me.
39. Lady Chatterley's Lover by D. H. Lawrence - I could swear I saw this on PBS.
40. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley - Movie! And wow, that was depressing. And Spock was in it! So. Cool.

41. Sister Carrie by Theodore Dreiser
42. Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell - Scarlett was the most annoying woman ever. Why she didn't just up and marry Melanie is a mystery.
43. Jungle by Upton Sinclair
44. All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque
45. Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx
46. Lord of the Flies by William Golding - hee. I snuck this one out of the library in seventh grade as it was forbidden to anyone not in high school AND with teacher permission. Heh. I think a lot of the meaning I got from it came along with the 'hehe, rebellion, hehe'. I *connected* with those boys.
47. Diary by Samuel Pepys
48. Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway
49. Jude the Obscure by Thomas Hardy
50. Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury - I'm reconciling myself to him. Sometimes, his writing is--weird. But I should read this. I really should.

51. Doctor Zhivago by Boris Pasternak
52. Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant
53. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey - Movie! I saw bits of the movie! I think.
54. Praise of Folly by Desiderius Erasmus
55. Catch-22 by Joseph Heller - I just wanted them all to die, just to save me the trouble of wishing for my own death. Major Major Major Major just--no.
56. Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X
57. Color Purple by Alice Walker
58. Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger
59. Essay Concerning Human Understanding by John Locke
60. Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison

61. Moll Flanders by Daniel Defoe - Movie! On PBS! PBS is *almost* like reading literature!
62. One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
63. East of Eden by John Steinbeck - I'm--not sure. I need to look at a copy and see.
64. Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
65. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou - I think I might have read it in junior high, but I don't remember anything about it, so. Leaving it unbolded.
66. Confessions by Jean Jacques Rousseau
67. Gargantua and Pantagruel by François Rabelais
68. Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes
69. The Talmud
70. Social Contract by Jean Jacques Rousseau

71. Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
72. Women in Love by D. H. Lawrence
73. American Tragedy by Theodore Dreiser
74. Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler
75. Separate Peace by John Knowles
76. Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath
77. Red Pony by John Steinbeck
78. Popol Vuh
79. Affluent Society by John Kenneth Galbraith
80. Satyricon by Petronius

81. James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
82. Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
83. Black Boy by Richard Wright
84. Spirit of the Laws by Charles de Secondat Baron de Montesquieu
85. Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut
86. Julie of the Wolves by Jean Craighead George
87. Metaphysics by Aristotle
88. Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder - What. The. Hell? #7: This isn't supposed to make sense. Were *buffalo* offended?
89. Institutes of the Christian Religion by Jean Calvin
90. Steppenwolf by Hermann Hesse

91. Power and the Glory by Graham Greene
92. Sanctuary by William Faulkner
93. As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
94. Black Like Me by John Howard Griffin
95. Sylvester and the Magic Pebble by William Steig
96. Sorrows of Young Werther by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
97. General Introduction to Psychoanalysis by Sigmund Freud
98. Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood - I'll cop to it. I hated this book so much. But I still plowed. It felt necessary at the time. Then I stopped.
99. Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Alexander Brown
100. Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess - I couldn't even watch the movie. Completely could not do it.

101. Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman by Ernest J. Gaines
102. Émile Jean by Jacques Rousseau
103. Nana by Émile Zola
104. Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
105. Go Tell It on the Mountain by James Baldwin
106. Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
107. Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein - I should read it. I feel like I should. But he never--moved me much.
108. Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
109. Ox-Bow Incident by Walter Van Tilburg Clark
110. Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes - What. The. Hell? #8: A voting block of mice were injured on behalf of their comrade?

I would guess Canturbury Tales has to do with the sex stuff, and Laura Ingalls Wilder probably has to do with the stuff with Native Americans.

Grapes of Wrath could be the breast-sucking thing, but more likely the whole "REDS! UnAmerican communist blah blah blah liberal politics blah blah blah!"

I could be wrong all around, though.

So far, that's the best explanation I've heard.

*eyes books again*

Had delicious discussion at dinner last night about Bram Stoker's Dracula. Apparently it was written 2 years after Oscar Wilde's trial and it has lots and lots of homosexual undertones and was the first vampire book to make subtext about the homoerotic nature of the bite.

Ahhhh. That explains a *lot*.

Also I think you forgot to unbold somewhere cause otherwise, I think you are very well read!

I think the Canterbury Tales banning probably had a lot to do with the Miller's Tale, which is horribly pornographic and uses the middle English word for 'cunt' which is queynte, and the Wife of Bath's tale where she brags about having the best, ah, 'queynte' around.

*grins* Point taken.

I need to re-read. I can only remember random bits of it I quoted on my paper.

I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou - I think I might have read it in junior high, but I don't remember anything about it, so. Leaving it unbolded.

Me too. So my first reaction is always, "Ah yes, I too know why the Caged Bird... no, wait, I don't. I really don't." I'm pretty sure it had to do with growing up poor and black and female in America, but then again who knows?

East of Eden by John Steinbeck - I'm--not sure. I need to look at a copy and see.

Not Exit to Eden, mind you, which would make quite a lot more sense on a banned list. Mind you, all I know about this is that the movie had James Dean in it.

Ooh, Bridge to Terabithia! I loved... why the hell would you ban Bridge to freaking Terabithia?

Also: http://www.fleursdumal.org/

Me too. So my first reaction is always, "Ah yes, I too know why the Caged Bird... no, wait, I don't. I really don't." I'm pretty sure it had to do with growing up poor and black and female in America, but then again who knows?

For some reason that makes no sense, I keep mixing it up with Bastard Out of Carolina. I have no idea why.

Will look at site. *eyes it* Where are you sending me?

Me too, sort of, although I've blocked out most of Bastard Out of Carolina.

The Website is the online version of the Baudelaire book. You asked!

Oh. Right. Sorry, Fleurs du Mal is Flowers of Evil.

Also, Stranger in a Strange Land may be a bit hard to read as an adult. As a thirteen-year-old, I adored it.

Ahhhh. *Excellent*.

Is this a real list? Who banned them?

I got it off of Lj within the last few days and I saved only this list and half the post, so I can't *remmeber. I think it was the 110 top banned books over the US.

Heh. Like me, you've flipped through a lot of the good stuff.

Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein is a must read. There will be parts that make you snicker, like when they put the alien in a suitcase. They also steal bits and peices of stuff from a bunch of religions, like a good 60s commune might. If you're me, you just flip through anything that doesn't have the alien in it. But then, I don't think I've tried to read it since I was 11ish.

I think 8th grade was too soon to read both Animal Farm and Black Boy. One taught me some interesting slang terminology for STDs, and one I tended to be mentally comparing to Charlotte's Web morso than A Communist Manifesto. Though really, they both deal pretty heavily with Communism (captain obvious to the rescue!). I never really read the second half of Black Boy, just skimmed it. That's where a lot of the communism stuff takes place. I feel like I shouldn't say it was a bad book, just that I wasn't ready for it when I read it.

Heh. Lord of the Flies was fun.

Brave New World - must read. It's fun. Just FUN.

-Silverkyst

Issue Books and Heavy Plot books without equally Heavy Character just--don't work for me. Also, I want to be entertained. That is the honest to God truth. If I'm not entertained, it's not going to work.

Heh. I hear you. I hate it when someone asks me "what literature have you read recently?" And the correct answer is supposed to be some lengthy Russian novel. Some people like them. I just don't.

Brave New World is of teh shiny though.
full text online:
http://somaweb.org/w/sub/Brave%20New%20World%20fulltext.html

-Silverkyst

Wow! It seems that my *entire* Jr High and High school lit list is now... banned? Who knew the school system in Ozark, Alabama was so progressive back in the day, eh? LOL!

I thought it was books that have been banned, not books that are banned.

??

Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck - What. The. Hell? #5: Does a dead mouse offend a large part of the population? One of the three books that I don't regret being on my High School Required Reading list. Also, saw the newer movie. Loved.

I think Flowers for Algernon has a dead mouse, but Of Mice and Men has a guy and his retarded brother, who he has to off at the end of the book because the cops are after him for killing/possibly raping/but mostly killing this asshole with a glove fetish's wife.

*g* I was thinking about the beginning of the book, where the retarded gentleman has a mouse in his pocket he likes to stroke because it's soft, but he apparently keeps killing them, so the other guy's mentions getting a puppy, more sturdy.

42. Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell - Why she didn't just up and marry Melanie is a mystery.

*chokes* BWAH!!

It's true! She *should* have. She'd have been happier.

And yes on the interesting Baudelaire. I love him. If you don't try Flowers of Evil, try Paris Spleen. LOVE IT.

*writes down* Got it.

Canterbury Tales is actually quite bawdy, especially the Wife of Bath's story.

But once you hit a certain age, bawdy starts meaning 'historical literature'. Or so my reading list in high school would have me believe. *g*

You know, I can barely remmber any of it now. I need to re-read, because I do remember liking it.

I guess 'cause I never read it in high school, or in translation, I never had that sense of it. Once I read it in my Chaucer course, in the Middle English... I guess it still seems really subversive and cool if you don't get it rammed down your throat by high school teachers. lol

3. Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes
8. Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer
22. History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon

I'm sorry, where and why are these books banned? The mind boggles.

37. Flowers of Evil by Charles Baudelaire
This is brilliant. It's heavy going at times and a bit pretentious, but brilliant. Picking a good translator is usually the main hurdle.

*nods with you* I'm still amused that after all this time, Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn are *still* considered racy. The rest of them....

*boggles with you*

37. Flowers of Evil by Charles Baudelaire
This is brilliant. It's heavy going at times and a bit pretentious, but brilliant. Picking a good translator is usually the main hurdle.

Okay then. I'll try it. I'm still vaguely traumatized by my short acquaintance with Tolstoy.

My bad dreams involve dense text and a plot that never, ever seems to end, interspersed by weird character moments. *shudders* Stop haunting me, man!

I'm still vaguely traumatized by my short acquaintance with Tolstoy.
See, I was in your camp until a few months ago. I confessed to a Russian friend that I found Tolstoy's prose impenetrable, so she sat me down and translated several chapters aloud, reading the Russian copy of War and Peace into English sentence by sentence. She really made it come alive for me. She then recommended a lesser-known, but thoroughly brilliant translation of the novel which demystified it considerably for me.

I have a favour to ask. Go here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/askmehow/2521.html#cutid1) and recommend any two books that you've read on this meme that I haven't. Some of them look really interesting, but I love it when people recommend books to me: it helps me select my reading more easily.

This is beautifully timed because last week I was getting into an argument with a ficwriter friend about how she was overestimating her audience's average literacy level (specifically by assuming that she didn't have to explain or identify anything by Shakespeare because surely everyone would recognize a four-word phrase from Titus Andronicus). It made me feel horribly ill-read. I'm comforted by being reminded that whenever one of these "books you're read" memes goes around most of my friends list is hitting in the 20-40% range.

When this book was first published in Germany there was a great discussion about the suicide of young Werther in this book. The people thought, that young men would commint suicide because of this book. Like this new B. Spears Video (Lieber Goethe, verzeihe mir!)

But why is Anne Frank banned? Or Sherlock HOlmes (o.K. I´m reading Holmes Slash, so this could be a reason)

Is not an actuell list, or?

Hey, just found this off of a meme index.

Anne Frank has some discussions of puberty and sexuality in it that some people found a little disconcerting. Sherlock Holmes went on cocaine binges.

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