Plagiarism Alert in SGA

[seperis]

Update 3:

APOLOGY DELETED! But screencaps live forever. Screencap of apology here.

Update 2:

AND HERE! jdr1184 totally fails at an apology here. I mean, totally fails.

Update:

tia933 finds similarities with ebook Bonding With Graven by Amber Kell - link

friendshipper found another story that was plagiarized from - link

Original

Thanks to the efforts of almostnever, who uncovered the plagiarism and telesilla, who has been kind enough to unlock her post with almostnever's conclusions:

The story The Reluctant Princess by jdr1184 has passages taken from rageprufrock's Bell Curve and toomuchplor's Waiting For My Real Life to Begin.

In almostnever's LJ: Comparison of The Reluctant Princess by ldr1184 to Rageprufrock's and ToomuchPlor's Stories In Tables!

In telesilla's LJ: Comparison of The Reluctant Princess by ldr1184 to Rageprufrock's and ToomuchPlor's Stories

...that wasn't even subtle, yo.

Just in case, screenshot of jdr1184's fic here, unlocked at time of posting.

Comments

[ladyholder.livejournal.com]

Uhm... Not the brightest thing to have done. Nope, nope, nope!

~L

[seperis.livejournal.com]

Srsly. Bell Curve of all things. Geez.

[robotjen.livejournal.com]

Why do this? Like, what's the freaking point, you know? The whole fun of writing is making your own stuff up.

God, people are dumb.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

IDEK. It's bizarre.

[telesilla.livejournal.com]

Great minds thing alike; I have a screen cap too. :)

[seperis.livejournal.com]

*glee* I am not filled with trust in her integrity, weirdly enough.

[nestra.livejournal.com]

I kind of want to check her House fic now, except I don't really care that much.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

I glanced at it? I didn't see anything, but I don't read in House at all, so if she did from a House author? No idea.

[cofax7]

... plagiarizing Pru?

... well, at least she has good taste?

[seperis.livejournal.com]

that's pretty much the only thing she has going for her there.

[cold-poet.livejournal.com]

What's really sad is she chose two really memorable scenes to copy. I can tell you exactly what the context for each is, where they are in the story...

WORD FOR WORD (sort of. but mostly.)

Wow.

[suaine.livejournal.com]

I love her little snotty comment when it's first brought up! It reminds me of the good old days in HP. I wonder if she makes the "I thought everyone does it" or "I wrote it down in a notebook and forgot I didn't write it" arguments. That would amuse me.

[delle.livejournal.com]

Cassie Edwards, represent!

(seriously, plagiarism is the one thing I CANNOT forgive. not that this idiot author is losing any sleep over that...)

I swear, some people...

[skatergurljb.livejournal.com]

What a hot mess. *shakes head* It's sad that she's plagiarising, because that shit is STILL bad. *cackles*

I didn't read your previous post, but I hope you're feeling a little better. :)

[cathalin.livejournal.com]

Just dropped a note at Telesillas, but does this sound familiar to people? I randomly scrolled through her other recent fic -- House -- and this title pinged me as vaguely familiar, and glancing through, this pings me as a John/Rodney fic I may have read... and it sounds exactly like their dialog? http://jdr1184.livejournal.com/24958.html

God, in my fandom prior to sga, someone took pieces from mine and a couple of other people's fics and strung them all together, linked by the worst writing EVAR. What was amazing to me was that she had tons of fans until someone recognized their own writing in it. I mean, entire chunks -- like three paragraphs bodily lifted out, nothing even changes.:(

eta: responding to my comment on Telesilla's lj, Friendshipper has found another section lifted straight from another fic...

[niqaeli]

Really all I want to do is post saying "But Rocky, that trick never works."

*facepalm* Oh, idiots. The world is not that large. The internet is smaller. And fandom is tiny. THAT TRICK NEVER WORKS.

[an-kayoh.livejournal.com]

Gah. That's like...like...*fails to think of a real life example that even makes sense*...trying to pass off the Space Shuttle as your own work to the Israelis?

FYI, the first instance of her username in your post is off - an i instead of a j - when I first clicked on it I thought she'd decided to beat feet in a serious way.

[tia993.livejournal.com]

The content has been plagiarised from the stories above, but the actual plot bears remarkable similarities to a commercial M/M fiction called Bonding with Graven by Amber Kell.

It involves a man escorting his sister to be tested as a mate for the a vampire.

he word 'mateseeker' is used and some of the paragraphes are very similar.

[tia993.livejournal.com]

I've just gone through and pulled out some of the plagiarised paragraphes from Amber Kell's fics and posted some of them on telesilla's journal if anyone is interested.

By the way, the examples I've put up come from the first couple of pages - I haven't had time to look any further. There may well be more.

[cathalin.livejournal.com]

These paragraphs are *identical*. Wow.

[cat-77.livejournal.com]

That was... incredibly stupid on the "author's" part.

I have a violet dislike for plagiarists. Was hit by one way back when and the archive removed the fic in question and banned the person, for them to never be heard from again (at least with that username). Got hit a second time and told I could do nothing about it because the plagiarist was more "known" than me. Seriously do not get the whole stealing from others thing.

I could understand being influenced by a fic, maybe, if you're careful about it and have a chat or three with the original author and make it your own and make sure it does not copy and yadda. Outright stealing? No. Outright stealing something incredibly well-known? No. Trying to play the innocent when called on your bullshit? No.

[terribilita.livejournal.com]

My favorite part is probably the "stripper!John?", like, not only has she never read plor's fic, but she's not even sure about Pru's. Everyone and their grandma knows for sure its stripper!John. Also, she even has Pru friended. *sigh*

[argosy.livejournal.com]

Ah, just like the good old days of HP. Don't they usually at least plagiarize from different fandoms than the one they are posting in? How unimaginative!

[digitalwave]

How can someone think they can get away with crap like that? Do they truly think that no one will notice?

[almostnever.livejournal.com]

Thanks for spreading the word. Looks like she deleted or locked down the story, along with at least the previous entry and possibly more of her LJ.

[almostnever.livejournal.com]

Did anyone get a copy of her failpology before she deleted her LJ? I was so amused by her denial on my post, I'd love to see what she said when she admitted it.

[norabombay.livejournal.com]

Ah. The glories of people who feel the need to plagiarize from one of the top 10 most well known fics in a fandom. One with a very distinctive style.

I mean if you are going to do it, pick something a little less well known.

This is more like this:

As Rodney watched, Sheppard climbed up to the podium to address the crowd. There was no visible microphone, but an Ancient system was amplifying Sheppard's words to the crowd. Sheppard waved his arms, and begun to deliver the speech that Weir had written specifically for the occasion. No canned speech from Earth would do.

Sheppard began speaking. "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

And with that he stepped off the podium, the crowd in stunned silence.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

*squints* I totally know that from somewhere.....

[archaeologist-d.livejournal.com]

I don't understand plagerism. It's not as if the praise she gets is hers.

I've had stories stolen and sometimes trying to get them taken off is really hard (especially if the mods don't seem to care). Plus we had a Merlin story stolen a while back on merlinxarthur and the person posting said that it wasn't a big deal and it was only words. *facepalm*

[ionaonie.livejournal.com]

Did they really?

I totally don't remember that.

Only words??? I can't express the epic fail enough in that sentence *eyeroll*

[lorelei76.livejournal.com]

Seriously? I mean, seriously? Plagerizing fanfic followed up with straight up denial even after seeing the side by side table of comparison?

PATHETIC on a truly epic scale. jdr1184 wins a one way trip to the Giant Ape house in the zoo, where we can watch orangutans fling poo at his/her head.

The stupid, the pretty, the random...

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[aurora]

AMATEURS. :|

[ionaonie.livejournal.com]

...Pru? Pru? They copied Pru?

I can't get past the fact that they thought they could copy Pru and no-one would notice?

Obviously they were on the bad crack.

Idiot!

[fyrdrakken]

Apology deleted -- hell, entire journal deleted!

On the plus side, I'd never read "Waiting for my Real Life to Begin" before, so this led to me seeking it out...

[almostnever.livejournal.com]

It's a good story! Give the plagiarist that much, she did choose good fic to clumsily plunder.