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seperis ([personal profile] seperis) wrote2007-09-09 04:07 pm
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huh. squee range.

Okay, so finally I sat down to sort through my bookmarks to read discussion on [livejournal.com profile] cesperanza's new fic--because I have done my homework. (Really. I mean, not all! But you know, some random amount.) So I deserve a reward. And chocolate milk.

Except--um. Is anyone discussing it *not* a member of academia or just really conversant with the themes of that? This is odd--but this is the first time in fandom I've felt my sheer lack of a degree in anything this strongly, because I am seriously *not able to follow* or really get into any discussion I've seen so far. But mostly, I just don't get what's being discussed. Okay, it's more the 'why' of what is being talked about. But it's also the feeling that I'm reading something in German but in this case, even throwing it through the translators isn't helping, as I have no translators and seriously. What are you people talking about?

It's very--I don't know. I wish for squee, but no place is squeeing on a level of "oh my god this is so awesome remember the part with the chair room" but mostly on the "did you notice the dissertation and footnotes of the x, y, z, it reminds me of that time back when I was teaching Very Horrifically Difficult Literature..." I am on a different squee range.

Er. That's kind of an exaggeration, but mostly not, because I'm serious, ,I am seeing in otherwise accessible ljs this entire--I don't know. It's like I'm missing some huge chunk of context. I keep having to fight down the urge to ask "WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING FOOTNOTE FORMAT" or something, because oh my God.

If I ask for an explanation of the squee range, is that going to show just dreadfully my terribly non-high-literature-inclinations so much that all will lose respect for me or something? I'm seriously kind of dazed by how inaccessible I'm finding a lot of these conversations.

Help? I'm kind of moving from dazed to the 'frustrated and annoyed' place and that can only end in staring resentfully at my laptop and eating way too much haagen-daz.

ETA: I now have people doing threads of squee and non-academic meta discussion. I have found nirvana. Yay!
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[identity profile] kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com 2007-09-11 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, everything was easy. They had the magic ZPM maker or whatever it was, so they never had to worry about energy. They had the super weapons. Sure they had the struggle with Earth, but that seemed almost beside the point to the fact that everything in the Pegasus galaxy went their way without any struggle at all. And then even the final battle was SGC and Wraith vs Atlantis, but it was magically resolved in the blink of an eye by jumping ahead to the epilogue where it said everything was okay.

And while I can see John leaving Earth behind without a second thought, does no one else really care? Rodney cares about his MREs but not about never talking to his sister (with whom he recently reconciled...or is this universe pre-McKay and Mrs Miller? I couldn't tell where it became an AU) again. Carson didn't care about his mother? Yeah, this is John's POV, but that shouldn't be an excuse to gloss over all that (especially since doing so stripped it of much of the possible conflict).
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[personal profile] trobadora 2007-09-11 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
Sure they had the struggle with Earth, but that seemed almost beside the point to the fact that everything in the Pegasus galaxy went their way without any struggle at all.

Yes, exactly! I really think this diminishes it.

And I can see Sheppard leaving Earth behind, but I doubt even he would do it without a second thought - mostly because he would be aware of all the problems this story neglects. After having lived through season 1 and all the problems they had due to their isolation, he wouldn't make that kind of choice lightly! But not only did the story take away all the problems, it also took away any previous awareness of them.