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seperis ([personal profile] seperis) wrote2007-09-09 04:07 pm
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huh. squee range.

Okay, so finally I sat down to sort through my bookmarks to read discussion on [livejournal.com profile] cesperanza's new fic--because I have done my homework. (Really. I mean, not all! But you know, some random amount.) So I deserve a reward. And chocolate milk.

Except--um. Is anyone discussing it *not* a member of academia or just really conversant with the themes of that? This is odd--but this is the first time in fandom I've felt my sheer lack of a degree in anything this strongly, because I am seriously *not able to follow* or really get into any discussion I've seen so far. But mostly, I just don't get what's being discussed. Okay, it's more the 'why' of what is being talked about. But it's also the feeling that I'm reading something in German but in this case, even throwing it through the translators isn't helping, as I have no translators and seriously. What are you people talking about?

It's very--I don't know. I wish for squee, but no place is squeeing on a level of "oh my god this is so awesome remember the part with the chair room" but mostly on the "did you notice the dissertation and footnotes of the x, y, z, it reminds me of that time back when I was teaching Very Horrifically Difficult Literature..." I am on a different squee range.

Er. That's kind of an exaggeration, but mostly not, because I'm serious, ,I am seeing in otherwise accessible ljs this entire--I don't know. It's like I'm missing some huge chunk of context. I keep having to fight down the urge to ask "WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING FOOTNOTE FORMAT" or something, because oh my God.

If I ask for an explanation of the squee range, is that going to show just dreadfully my terribly non-high-literature-inclinations so much that all will lose respect for me or something? I'm seriously kind of dazed by how inaccessible I'm finding a lot of these conversations.

Help? I'm kind of moving from dazed to the 'frustrated and annoyed' place and that can only end in staring resentfully at my laptop and eating way too much haagen-daz.

ETA: I now have people doing threads of squee and non-academic meta discussion. I have found nirvana. Yay!

[identity profile] klo-the-hobbit.livejournal.com 2007-09-09 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Oops! Spoilers! *does SUPRISE! hands* And yes. Which really didn't work for me. I love stories where they declare their independence from Earth but that bit of the fic really didn't push my buttons. And it made me sad because I wanted to love it with the fire of a thousand suns like everyone else and yet the embers of my heart glow only like one sun. Possibly two. There was some pretty awesome stuff in there *grins*

[identity profile] emrinalexander.livejournal.com 2007-09-10 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
The marriage threw me out of the story too. OK, I see the political rationale for it, but there was no reason for John to actually have sex with Teyla and I felt like that was kind stuffed in there. Rodney was having a difficult enough time dealing with the situation and I was kind of appalled that John would be that (a) thoughtless and (b) unable to walk away with his pants zipped despite the temptation. Which also didn't make sense to me, since he'd been characterized as being very very gay in orientation prior to that.

[identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com 2007-09-10 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I have a theory. *g*

Feel aboslutely free to disagree. I FINALLY HAVE DISCUSSION IN MY LANGUAGE. This is making me intensely happy.

http://seperis.livejournal.com/504940.html?thread=12297836#t12297836