coffee and chocolate day

[seperis]

This is so cool. And based on something called the Tiptree Awards, which I had never heard of before and now is totally burned into my brain forever and ever, but...

Wow. The purring part of fannish meta--by which I mean, oh my God, everyone is discussing what it is, how it's viewed, how they see themselves, how they see others, what fanfic is, was, and will be, how it's viewed by others--this is like heroin. I have no idea where to respond first. It's like someone said it was chocolate and coffee day. Why the fuck am I at work? I wonder if I could fake appendicitis convincingly.

Picked up these links, I *think* all are unlocked.

metafandom has a listing--oh, new ones! I didn't see some of these. Two separate entries: here and here.

Some individual links that popped up on my flist:

Audience, People! by cereta
Hi, Ranty McRantpants reporting for duty by copracat.
When outsiders read fanfiction by eolianbeck

Hmm. You know, from a purely fangirl watching perspective, it's interesting that a fanfic got on the list in the first place. Hmm.

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[wickedwords.livejournal.com]

Hmm. You know, from a purely fangirl watching perspective, it's interesting that a fanfic got on the list in the first place. Hmm.

It is, isn't it? And yet, it's not. The Tiptree award is about genderbending and pushing gender boundries, and that is the *core*of*slash*, baby. Stories written by women for women using the bodies of men. It's all Tiptree's finest.

disclaimer: yes, some slash fans are men, but not a significant amount

[seperis.livejournal.com]

On one hand, it's surprising that until fairly recently, no one outside, say, *us*, or some random academic, even *noticed* fandom in any meaningful way. It was that thing, that they do, that's crazy, with weird and inexplicable motives assigned. This--interests me in a whole differnet way. Part of me is going, wow, *cool*, and the other part is thinking, and you've (generalized non-fen you) been *where* the last thirty-forty-odd years?

And on the other, something Livia said struck a chord. I mock badfic all the time--privately, publicly, etc--but only to other fangirls. Fanpeople. well, really, mostly women. So other fangirls. If I was to be called up in front of nonfen, I'd probably be defending on artistic merit or something, because dammit, these are my people and by God, you have to earn the right to mock. Hmm. That's not exactly what I mean, but I'll need to rethink my phrasing.

At least, that's my knee-jerk reaction. It's--hmm. Complex. In a way I like.

[wickedwords.livejournal.com]

The issue is how this is tied up with the push-me/pull-you of copyright. By admitting that there is something of literary merit in fan fiction, it muddies the fair use and derivitive work concept, in that little of the original source is used and a new work of literary merit is produced, as that new work has 'transformed' the original source and made it something else. Parody and satire, for example, can be done in such a ways transform the original source, and the courts upheld their right to do it under "Fair use."(see Paramont vs. Mad Magazine, the parody "Star Blech") The transformation of the original work is copyrightable, and independant from the original work.

So if fan ficiton has literary merit...well, it could be threatening to the whole money/copyright thing.

[ashnan-etana.livejournal.com]

Just an FYI to all the fanfiction writers and somewhat a responce to your post.

Comic books are a form of fanfiction. They are no longer writtten by their creators, but by those who grew up loving the characters and are now lucky enough to be paid for putting their own ideas into those books.

Neil Gaiman won the Pulitzer Prize for his comic book The Sandman. Yes, that's right. A comic, basically fanfiction, won the Pulitzer Prize. If that doesn't show the value of fanfiction, I don't know what does.

[cereta.livejournal.com]

Actually, he won a World Fantasy Award. That said, the work for which he won was about Shakespeare and A Midsummer Night's Dream, so derivative art = yay!