huh. squee range.

[seperis]

Okay, so finally I sat down to sort through my bookmarks to read discussion on cesperanza's new fic--because I have done my homework. (Really. I mean, not all! But you know, some random amount.) So I deserve a reward. And chocolate milk.

Except--um. Is anyone discussing it *not* a member of academia or just really conversant with the themes of that? This is odd--but this is the first time in fandom I've felt my sheer lack of a degree in anything this strongly, because I am seriously *not able to follow* or really get into any discussion I've seen so far. But mostly, I just don't get what's being discussed. Okay, it's more the 'why' of what is being talked about. But it's also the feeling that I'm reading something in German but in this case, even throwing it through the translators isn't helping, as I have no translators and seriously. What are you people talking about?

It's very--I don't know. I wish for squee, but no place is squeeing on a level of "oh my god this is so awesome remember the part with the chair room" but mostly on the "did you notice the dissertation and footnotes of the x, y, z, it reminds me of that time back when I was teaching Very Horrifically Difficult Literature..." I am on a different squee range.

Er. That's kind of an exaggeration, but mostly not, because I'm serious, ,I am seeing in otherwise accessible ljs this entire--I don't know. It's like I'm missing some huge chunk of context. I keep having to fight down the urge to ask "WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING FOOTNOTE FORMAT" or something, because oh my God.

If I ask for an explanation of the squee range, is that going to show just dreadfully my terribly non-high-literature-inclinations so much that all will lose respect for me or something? I'm seriously kind of dazed by how inaccessible I'm finding a lot of these conversations.

Help? I'm kind of moving from dazed to the 'frustrated and annoyed' place and that can only end in staring resentfully at my laptop and eating way too much haagen-daz.

ETA: I now have people doing threads of squee and non-academic meta discussion. I have found nirvana. Yay!

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[seperis.livejournal.com]

*grins* Isn't that every fandom?

[gaffsie.livejournal.com]

Maybe I was just too deeply invested in the House fandom to be sanguine about it, but it genuinly felt like it was the most stupid place on the internet at times. I didn't join the main comm because that's where the stupid congregated (and was a wank Mecca to boot), and eventually I had to leave the H/W comm. I had no problems with the squee (that's why we're here, after all), but it was such potent mixture of rampant idiocy and SRZ BZNESS that I couldn't stand it.

Has there been shipper petitions (several of them) in this fandom yet? (I wouldn't know since I didn't get converted until this spring)
Has discussions about RPS turned in to flame wars over whom is attractive/young enough/gay enough to be Joe's lover? There was an actual flame war over whom Hugh Laurie was fucking. The OP was *convinced* that Hugh and Robert was in a relationship and that that's why the show was so slashy. Isn't that pretty much scraping the bottom of the fandom barrel?
Has actors' impending marriages made fangirls cry because that in their heads mean the end of their non-RPF ships?

...

Wow, I come across as deranged, don't I? Sorry about the weirdness, it's late and the House fandom really did rot my brain.

[seperis.livejournal.com]

In SGA? I don't follow the RPS portion at all, so I have no idea. In SV? Yes, there was a petition for the slash couple, if I rember correctly (er, this being like, four years ago when I was superactive). And the other is echoes of LOTR and a couple of SPN wanks I glanced at.

*G* Though all at once is apt to be overwhelming. *G*

[gaffsie.livejournal.com]

The reason why House freaked me out so much was probably that it was the first fandom I really participated in, but that doesn't explain why SGA (which I'm deeply invested in even though I'm not a very productive member of fandom) doesn't follow that pattern at all. There are smart fangirls, silly fangirls, funny fangirls, intellectual fangirls, but not that many batshit crazy fangirls.

Maybe I'm just hanging out at the wrong comms. ;)

Hey, or maybe it's an either-or situation. Either the meta will be abstract and detached or it will be flailing and hysteric?

[villeinage.livejournal.com]

I've been around fandom long enough to know that the batshit-crazy strikes at will.

Really, there's no predicting which fandom will bring the stupid.

[gaffsie.livejournal.com]

Hah, I guess not. :)

In House's case it's just made even worse by the fact that everyone are so self-congratulating. SGA fans at least have a sense of humor about the show, gladly admitting that it's pretty cheesy. A disturbingly large number of the House fen actually think that they're better than everyone else just because the show they like has won a few awards. At some point there was even wank about how the American Idol fans that started watching House weren't worthy of the show. A major WTF moment.

*Takes deep breath* That's it. I've spilled enough vitrol for one night. I apologize for taking my issues out on everyone else.