Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009 05:25 pm
it's like the special edition guide to nightmares
Gakked from Fyrdrakken:
Top 10 Films That Traumatise Small Children and 10 Great Children's Books For People Who Hate Their Children
I'm going to make a point about the movies one, since the books one is just laughable.
Watership fucking Down - if you are like me and saw that shit during the impressionable pre-eight-years-old age, you might have come out of it with a strong terror of a.) mist and b.) life. Who the hell gives that to a kid to watch? Network TV, that's who. I mean, if I was going to ever say "What makes me unable to watch a horror movie or anything involving fog", this movie is the reason. I cannot talk about this rationally because I do not remember any of it but I remember terror, and despair, and a general feeling that the world not only sucked, but it would only get worse from here on out.
People. I cannot read the book. I have looked at it and felt my entire body twitch in sheer horror. And I remember the opening sequence and the ears and the legs and how the entire world was out to kill them. Kill them all. Adn by them, I mean, me, because I was below-eight and lookie there, I identified with the small, soft creature being everyone's dinner.
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The Secret of NIMH (not listed in top 11) - to this day, I still can't comprehend anyone sane put that in a movie theatre for anyone below the age of fifteen. I have the children's edition book somewhere. Again, let me point out, I cannot remember any of it. But I remember watching, and I remember fear. Overwhelming fear.
Agree with their list? Disagree? I have a couple of others that doubtless I'll be flashbacking to over the next few days. I mean, Bambi hurt, and Ole Yeller hurt, but just looking at The Dark Crystal is stirring things deep in my psyche that may mean yes, I did see that, and there are very good reasons I do not remember it.
Yes, yes, yes, my mood is indeed distressed.
ETA: WHY THE HELL DID I GO BACK AND WATCH THAT DAMN HAZEL CLIP? RABBIT TURNED TO LEAVES AND RED EYED STYLIZED DEAD RABBITS! WELCOME TRAUMATIC CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCE. THERE GOES MY SLEEP FOR A FEW DAYS.
ETA 2: Right, so I've just--helped everyone relive their traumatic childhood media experiences. Um. You're welcome? IT'S NOT LIKE I WILL BE SLEEPING EITHER OKAY?
Top 10 Films That Traumatise Small Children and 10 Great Children's Books For People Who Hate Their Children
I'm going to make a point about the movies one, since the books one is just laughable.
Watership fucking Down - if you are like me and saw that shit during the impressionable pre-eight-years-old age, you might have come out of it with a strong terror of a.) mist and b.) life. Who the hell gives that to a kid to watch? Network TV, that's who. I mean, if I was going to ever say "What makes me unable to watch a horror movie or anything involving fog", this movie is the reason. I cannot talk about this rationally because I do not remember any of it but I remember terror, and despair, and a general feeling that the world not only sucked, but it would only get worse from here on out.
People. I cannot read the book. I have looked at it and felt my entire body twitch in sheer horror. And I remember the opening sequence and the ears and the legs and how the entire world was out to kill them. Kill them all. Adn by them, I mean, me, because I was below-eight and lookie there, I identified with the small, soft creature being everyone's dinner.
Adding:
The Secret of NIMH (not listed in top 11) - to this day, I still can't comprehend anyone sane put that in a movie theatre for anyone below the age of fifteen. I have the children's edition book somewhere. Again, let me point out, I cannot remember any of it. But I remember watching, and I remember fear. Overwhelming fear.
Agree with their list? Disagree? I have a couple of others that doubtless I'll be flashbacking to over the next few days. I mean, Bambi hurt, and Ole Yeller hurt, but just looking at The Dark Crystal is stirring things deep in my psyche that may mean yes, I did see that, and there are very good reasons I do not remember it.
Yes, yes, yes, my mood is indeed distressed.
ETA: WHY THE HELL DID I GO BACK AND WATCH THAT DAMN HAZEL CLIP? RABBIT TURNED TO LEAVES AND RED EYED STYLIZED DEAD RABBITS! WELCOME TRAUMATIC CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCE. THERE GOES MY SLEEP FOR A FEW DAYS.
ETA 2: Right, so I've just--helped everyone relive their traumatic childhood media experiences. Um. You're welcome? IT'S NOT LIKE I WILL BE SLEEPING EITHER OKAY?
Watership Down was written by Satan.
From:I firmly believe people can be divided into people who like the book and people who hate the book. The people who hate the book are all on some kind of medication in their adult life, but fairly unlikley to kill any rabbits. The people who like it: Serial Killers.
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From:Perhaps we are on medication and adopted four rabbits at one time. And still stare at them longingly wherever we go. Not that there is a connection but oh my God, could it be Watership Down has informed my entire life?
This is all trufax, btw. TRUFAX.
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From:Mind you, the medication is still necessary.
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From:Mind you, I've never seen the movie, and the book was a lot more... loving.
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From:Fortunately, I was warned about Watership Down and avoided it. Still haven't seen it, actually. I don't think I'll be changing that anytime soon.
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From:* Bambi. I assume I cried, but I remember liking it. (No, it wasn't the original release, smarty-pants. Back in the days before DVDs, Disney re-released films to the theaters every 10 years or so.)
* Snow White. I saw this when I was three (see smarty-pants remark above) and I still vaguely remember shrieking in terror at one of the more dramatic scenes with the witch.
* Willy Wonka. Saw this one when I was 8 (original release) and loved it. Adored it. Maybe it helped that I'd read the book? It's too bad that Roald Dahl was (apparently) an ass, because I liked everything of his that I read.
I read Watership Down as a teenager, and damn was that a grim book. Taking a kid to see the movie should probably count as child abuse, unless it's a particularly grim child.
I never have seen Never Ending Story or Dark Crystal. The artsy bit of me is endlessly annoyed by the look of the puppets in both of those, and I refuse to see them.
Also, meh. Work is blocking the list of kid's books. :-(
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From:Beside Godzilla, the last version. I don't know why, the scary scenes were cool scary, (like when he opened his eye, or when he was below the chopper, and with the bridge!) not traumatised scary, but everytime, I had nightmare about him the next night. And I still watch because I like this movie. And laugh how all the French are Jean-something.
Watched IT when I was young, had no problems.
Like all rule, there is one exception. When I was 5 or 6, the school made us see L'Ours (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095800/). To this day, I still refuse to watch the movies of Jean-Jacques Annaud.
I would have liked his last one, it has tigers! And the brother tigers are reunited and not dead in the end, if my brother didn't lie. But because of this film, I simply can't.
I don't even remember what happened, beside the scene that actually traumatised me. The rock fall, mama bear die scene. Filmed like these documentaries, where the crocodiles attack and eat an animal. I can still see the rock, and mama bear falling under it, and baby bear watching. I don't know if there was sound to accompany it, but if there was, I blocked it.
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From:I wonder if it's available via Netflix' streaming thingy?
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From:The Skeses also scared the crap out of me, and I think I've blocked The Neverending Story from my consciousness, because sometimes I think I've never seen it, but then I see screencaps or clips and I remember the Nothing, and promptly don't choose to chase down that memory. *shudders*
I read Watership Down as an adult, and loved that book. Never seen the movie.
I read Animal Farm as summer reading before 8th grade and I cried and cried. Orwell might be pleased to hear that since being upset was presumably the point, but still.
SPN and X-Files have freaked me out at times, but it's Doctor Who that has had episodes so scary I lost sleep. I COULD NOT believe it when I heard it was theoretically a children's show. (The eps were the "Are you my mummy" one and Blink.)
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From:...I had forgotten that scene. *tears*
I am clever enough NEVER TO TOUCH THE WATERSHIP DOWN LINK. Oh no. Not me. I'm not putting myself through that, ever again.
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From:I don't think she'd actually read it first. I don't think she'd read the back cover. And I'd managed to completely repress that experience until RIGHT NOW.
(I actually haven't seen most of the above movies, or only saw them after I was old enough not to be freaked out. Although apparently I was completely wrecked after The Lion King.)
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From:CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY: Deranged pedophile big-business industrialist tortures and mutilates young children.
E.T.: Out-of-control pet causes mayhem, sadness.
LABYRINTH: Girl is negligent baby-sitter.
LASSIE COME HOME: Family abandons beloved pet, forcing it to engage in a dangerous cross-country journey.
SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS: Layabout stepdaughter shacks up with seven miners.
THE GOONIES: Physically abused, retarded man finds love with overweight preteen.
THE INCREDIBLE JOURNEY: Family abandons beloved pets, forcing them to engage in a dangerous cross-country journey.
THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS: Dangerous insurgent invades neighboring country.
WALL-E: Obsolete robot disrupts big business, disrupts lives of millions of innocent civilians.
In comments:
Wizard of Oz: Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first person she meets and then teams up with three strangers to kill again
CHITTY CHITTY BANG BANG: Crackpot widower fantasizes that his father and children are abducted, leaving him free to engage in cosplay with daughter of candy magnate.
RUDOLPH THE RED-NOSED REINDEER: Deformed boy humiliated and exiled until dictator finds him exploitable.
Willow: Dwarf kidnaps, endangers infant
Time Bandits: Dwarves kidnap, endanger small boy.
CHARLOTTE’S WEB: Spin artist hypes unremarkable swine, abandons children.
Alice in Wonderland: Drug addled child ignores stranger danger
GREEN EGGS AND HAM: Deranged stalker tries to force rotten food upon terrified, angry protagonist. Similar ending to NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR.
THE CAT IN THE HAT: Teenage house-party gets drastically out of hand.
Mary Poppins - Witch babysits children. Parents are too busy to care.
THE LITTLE MERMAID: Nymphomaniac girl temporarily succeeds in mad quest to pry her legs apart.
HOME ALONE: Abandoned child barely escapes sodomy by homosexual vagrants
Peter Pan - even in dreams children cannot escape abusive father figure
ANNIE - Billionaire uses necklace to bribe untraceable child to move in with him.
THE LION KING: Outcast violently ruins experiment in social harmony.
The Sound of Music: Gold-digging nanny disrupts single father’s family relationships and marriage plans.
TOY STORY: Selfish, backstabbing sheriff tries to rub out rival.
TOY STORY 2: Selfish, backstabbing sheriff steals private collector’s property, cheats him of thousands of dollars.
THE PRINCESS BRIDE: Man tortures ill boy with book of inappropriate subject matter and continues despites child’s begging.
OBV. CHILDREN SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO WATCH MOVIES!!!
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From: (Anonymous) Date: 2009-04-24 04:51 am (UTC)Seriously, letting little kids watch that thing is just cruel.
The last line was particularly unnecessary, I've always thought.
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a non-Disney mermaid and "The Fox and the Hound"
From:Then, there was The Fox and the Hound. I was nine, and had been so excited by the previews that showed an adorable little puppy and a sweet little fox cub. But then the puppy and fox cub grow up. And the fox gets abandoned on a rainy day, and the old lady cries. And then the hound hates the fox. I hated that movie.
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From:BLUE MEANIES. Aaargh.
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From:The first Care Bears Movie. The Care Bears I loved, but OMG that evil green face in the magician's book? I was SO terrified.
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omg! childhood trauma found!
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speaking of children's books...
From:Such heartwarming titles as "Help, Mommy! There are liberals under my bed!"
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From:I read the beginning of Watership Down when I was incredibly young, probably seven, and I still can't even THINK the title or, God forbid, see the cover and not feel sick.
The first four movies I saw as a kid though were ...hell, I still don't know what the adults were thinking. First movie-> orphans in war-torn Germany witness a man stuff a squirming puppy in a bag and throw it off a bridge, so decide to save animals? Some freaked out sh*t like that. Something to do with post-war starvation, flooding, and having no parents.
2. Walkabout-> My parents went out to eat and left the TV to babysit us in a hotelroom. They put it on and told us to watch it, thinking it was an Australian nature show.
In it, a man comes home from work, tells his family they're going on a picnic, takes them out to a remote spot in the desert and opens fire on them. Their mom's shot, he accidently blows himself and the car up, and the two kids almost die out in the desert. But an aborigine boy finds them and stops his visionquest to save them. Later, he hangs himself because of that, and the little boy and girl find him swinging in a tree, covered in flies.
It also seemed to have some weird sexual overtones, something about the girl and the aborigine boy feeling something for each other- so he runs out and kills himself. Or, at least that's something I connected in my head when I was a kid.
My dad still does impressions of how big mine and my brother's eyes were, when they came back.
3. The Illustrated Man-> Every tattoo is a story. Unfortunately I remember the story of the guy with the beautiful family that he loves, and he goes to a council meeting and is informed that the world is going to end that night, so 'here's a pill to give each of your kids' so they die and don't have to suffer. His wife freaks, he agrees he won't do it, they wake up the next morning, the sun is shining, the birds are singing, he got up in the night and fed the kids their pills.
4. Finally-> seven years old, first sleepover, Brownies. Brownie leader lets us watch the late show. Something black-and-white about this guy who digs up his ancestors and they've all scratched the shit out of the inside of their tombs because THEY WERE BURIED ALIVE AND NO ONE COULD TELL.
*does the heeby-jeeby dance*
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