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seperis ([personal profile] seperis) wrote2010-04-24 04:13 pm
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books: romance authors

Because so many people gave good recs in my post about Georgette Heyer romances, I'm going to toss out a few more of my favorites.

Romances

Anything by Amanda Quick. They're kind of repetitive, but they're lower in misogyny, most of the female characters either have careers or are bluestocking and scholars, the heroes tend to be decent guys in general outside of the Regency mold and some are illegitimate sons of the higher aristocracy, which is new and interesting for a hero. Some are also very gay positive--one heroine was raised by her lesbian aunt and her partner (this later plays into a second plot where she assists two female lovers) and another, though again, it's been a while, involved a male partners (I think; I went through a hard Regency period (and um, Star Trek profic) period when I was pregnant with Child and then again about eight years ago, so it's been a while). They're also a lot of fun, light, frothy, caper-filled, and weirdly hilarious and sensible. They also, from my memory, keeping in mind Georgette Heyer, lack explicit racism, but it's been a while (about eight years) since I read them, so the implicit I can't be sure of.

Most by Catherine Coulter. She tends to have a memorable plot, my favorite being The Wild Baron with its supernatural/religious/Holy Grail aspects and a heroine who is not a virgin. Yes, I know! There are also cat races, which is just cute.

For sheer wtf entertainment and horror, anything by Virginia Henley. She made me read about Eleanor, sister of Henry III, and the huge variety of sexual capers everyone gets up to, not always vanilla, always in purple prose, and Simon de Montfort wears a special black leather penis sheathe--yes, a sheathe--to protect his huge massive horse-like cock (seriously) during battle (seriously). Think about that one. It's the equivalent of a very purple Nifty story. This is porn. This is long ass porn. Sometimes, you will be surprised by a priest giving someone drugs and having sex in the confessional, then there might later be a threesome and you don't know how you got there and suddenly you're on Crusade in Italy and the cock sheathe is back. Dropping acid first might help.

Judith McNaught - the only reason I like her is that her plotlines, while predictible, tend to be fun, but it's very typical contemporary romance, albeit not purple and is very well written. There will be in this order a.) dislike b.) falling in love c.) a tragic and horrific misunderstanding and d.) someone groveling. For variety, women usually keep their careers or some kind of outside interest than keeping house.

Marsha Canham - it's been years since I read her, but I remember vividly she came after my nightmare with Virginia Henley and was a refreshing change from Jude Devereaux. Pride of Lions is set during--God, the Jacobean uprising? It's pre-Regency, there are kilts, and the plotline is fascinatingly complicated sometimes and has some small but interesting politics and historical facts.

Feel free to drop your recs in here if you have any.

Looking For This Book, Help?

There is this novel and I only remember a few things about it, so here they are; one, the practical, common-sense female character is not interested in the male character, who has issues, they get caught in the garden making out, her reputation is ruined when he in a fit of temper thinking she was trying to compromise him then says he compromised her, and she sent him a bill stating what income she expected since she was his mistress and he better pay the fuck up. Then they get married. I think she has a brother (don't they all?). The male character has a best friend who is blond and hot and is infatuated with a married blond woman who is super hot and they get a book of their own later after her husband died or something.

I know this is not unique, but I remember this one because it was actually really funny, especially her detailing out what income she expected and what kind of apartment to get her in her new position as mistress. She was one of the first Romance heroines I read without an overly large chest and who was surprisingly uninterested in marriage.

God, Why Was This Book Written?

And randomly, but okay: has anyone ever finished Maia by Richard Adams? I have tried for years and years and I only get halfway through before I am so bored it hurts me. I originally got it in my teens and was thrilled by the surprisingly unvarnished sexual content but then gave up when it became a sleep aid. I made it through goddamn Anna Karenina finally, so it's not like I don't know how to read just to prove I can damn well do it. Is it just me? Does it get like, really good in the second (endless five million page) half?
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[personal profile] majoline 2010-04-24 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the recs!
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[personal profile] parhelion 2010-04-24 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
The two still writing regency authors I'll cross the street to buy are Carla Kelly and Loretta Chase.

I love Carla Kelly largely because her heroes do things with their lives other than be noble rakes and because their actions have consequences. Also, both the heroines and heroes are likable in a way that's surprisingly rare in romances. I want to meet many of them, not just read about them. As well, she's managed to notice how brutal the period could be for those who weren't privileged and get that across without turning the books into Thomas Hardy novels.

Loretta Chase, on the other hand, is lively and funny, and writes plots full of adventure (tm) and color (tm). She seems to do her research, though. Her heroes are rogues but genuinely charming, Hans Solo or Leverage variety rogues. And her heroines don't put up with guff and are in charge of their own lives, thank you very much. It's quite refreshing. (Could that novel you're looking for be by her? It's ringing a faint bell.)

I also love the Heiress series by Roberta Gellis, although they are out of print and tough to find these days. However, it's worth the hunt. Her sense of history is much firmer than that of most writers, and her protagonists act like well-rounded adults, including the women. There's some explicit sex, but there are also extended (and, to me, interesting) scenes about battles, being a diplomat in Russia, the economics of running a regency bookstore, smuggling, and on, and on... She also, once or twice, writes one heck of a dandy.
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[personal profile] green_grrl 2010-04-24 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm curious as to whether you have read Dorothy Dunnett's Lymond Chronicles series. They're more "romance" in the old fashioned adventure-y sense, but I love the epic sweep, and historical settings, and loads of smart people, and intrigue, etc. Plus, bi main character FTW!

Reading Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle trilogy reminded me so much of Dunnett, except with loads more science and scholarship shoehorned in (people tend to love or hate all that he shoehorns into his books; I fall on the love side). And then at the end I read Stephenson acknowledged Dunnett--so not surprised!

I never tried Maia, but I will say I've never finished a "classic" Russian novel. Not a one.
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[personal profile] exceptinsects 2010-04-24 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I got through about one chapter of Maia before I was creeped the hell out and returned it immediately to the library.
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[personal profile] green_grrl 2010-04-24 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Communist classic and propaganda, no less!

That sounds awesome! There's the stereotype that Communist literature would be all heavy-handed and drab, but really the graphic design for the posters was brilliant popular art. Why wouldn't the writing be?
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[personal profile] exceptinsects 2010-04-24 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
heh, sixteen-year-old me was reading the sex scenes in Judith Krantz and Jean Auel! (which I think actually you could do worse, really, in the sense that the sex in both of them is usually woman-friendly when it's good, and when there are rapes they are not sexy)

I didn't run across Maia till last year, though.
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[personal profile] exceptinsects 2010-04-24 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
although to be fair, I haven't read either in years so I may be remembering them as better than they actually were.
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[personal profile] parhelion 2010-04-24 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
She is a blast! Hope you can lay hands on the regencies. I think they're fun!
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[personal profile] jiltanith 2010-04-25 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
One Regency author I really like is Joan Wolf; her early ones were somewhat closer to the standard formula (although she's got one where the heroine was raped by the hero while he was drunk, and another one where the heroine gets pregnant and has to marry someone else because the hero has gone off adventuring) and the more recent ones are more realistic, but she's one of the few authors who always made me feel that I was reading about people, rather than about characters.

[personal profile] shana 2010-04-25 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Roberta Gellis' regencies are back in print: http://www.jasminejade.com/m-533-roberta-gellis.aspx

I bought all of her books that are available in electronic format; Fortune's Bride kept me occupied on a recent airplane trip.
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[personal profile] parhelion 2010-04-25 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Fabulous! Thank you.
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[personal profile] crossedwires 2010-04-25 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
[here via DW network.]

(Could that novel you're looking for be by her? It's ringing a faint bell.)

I was going to say the unknown book sounds sort of like 'Lord of Scoundrels' by Chase.
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[personal profile] jamjar 2010-04-25 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
I have a memory of liking Merline Lovelace's books. I read some Eloise James recently and liked those, too.
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[personal profile] lorelei76 2010-04-25 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always been a little ashamed of my taste in leisure reading. I feel like at my age, I ought to be able to move past my love for cheesy romance novels and actually start tackling that "100 books to read before you die" meme that's been rolling around since forever. I've read, like, 20 of the books on the list, and have yet to get cracking on the rest.

ANYWAY. Amanda Quick aka Jayne Anne Krentz aka Jayne Castle - my favorite "I'm sick. All I want is tea, soup, and a book to make me feel better" books. Same with Judith McNaught. Coulter's older, historical novels are also favorites: I've got a pile of dogeared copies piled up around my bed.

I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the ubiquitous Nora Roberts aka JD Robb. I like Roberts' contemporary romances, though her more fantasy-driven trilogies are unbelievably repetitive (3 girls, 3 guys, girls vs boys conflicts, supernatural shenanigans, all three couples must fall in love in order to beat the bad guy, the last couple usually is the most conflicted; it usually needs near death experience for both to realize they love each other.) Needless to say, I own MOST of those trilogies. There's something to be said about familiarity.

I actually prefer the JD Robb books - futuristic cop novels featuring our heroine Eve (with a tragic, traumatic past!) solving lots of gory murders, having hot sex, and married to a delicious gajillionaire Irish husband named Roarke (who has a particularly shady background, but he gave it all up for looooove.) Sign me up.

Have you read Lauren Willig's The Secret History of the Pink Carnation? That was very fun; not perfect, but great for sitting around by the pool with an alcoholic beverage. I've read the sequel but have yet to pick up the rest of the series.
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[personal profile] beck_liz 2010-04-25 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, Virginia Henley. I encountered her as a teenager, and I can't even begin to determine what effect she might have had on my psyche. :-) Fortunately or unfortunately, I can no longer read any of her books. I appear to have gone over my threshold for purple prose porn at some point.

Amanda Quick/Jayne Ann Krentz is reliably good, if somewhat repetitive. I read when I need something soothing yet interesting.
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[personal profile] beck_liz 2010-04-25 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I love Nora's contemporary novels; it is true that the novels with fantasy elements tend to be extremely repetitive. Some I've really liked, but there was one or two of her trilogies I just couldn't get started with, let alone finished.

Time travel romance

(Anonymous) 2010-05-15 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
I read a romance a long time ago about the guy and girl who travelled back in time to greek mythology. Turned out they were soul mates. Had this guy on the cover that looked like an angel

[identity profile] shansgrl.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this. I'm putting this into my memories as I'm always (especially lately) looking for new books to read. :)

[identity profile] genderbent.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the book you're looking for is "Lord of Scoundrels" by Loretta Chase.

[identity profile] barometric.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
De-lurking to say: the book you're looking for is (I'm almost certain) Lord of Scoundrels by Loretta Chase. If you haven't read them, I highly recommend her later novels as well (with the exception of Captives of the Night, which continues the sub-plot of the hot blond friend's obsession with the married woman).

She refers to her most recent books as the Fallen Women series, which sums up nicely some of the ways they depart from Regency (and Romance) tropes.

[identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
...you're like, magic. I think that's it! Just ordered it!

[identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Brilliant. I'm adding her to my next month's book orders. thouh I'm ordering Scoundrels right now because i read that like, fifteen years ago and weirdly, have been on LJ ten years and never thought to ask anyone about it. *excited*

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