Above and beyond my insane Olivia/Peter shipping and my utter adoration of Olivia--I haven't loved any character like this since B'Elanna in Voyager--and the show's sci-fi, but very, very few shows, to me, have ever done so well in portraying a complex parent/child relationship as Fringe.

I'm absolutely sure anyone can name a dozen dramas that do it better, but honestly, I've never been so fascinated and invested in it working out. It might as well be my second ship (platonic!) because the show invests in it. And it's surprising how well they've done it, with the slow growth, the absurdity, the backsliding, the pettiness and stupidity of people who love each other and hurt each other and learn to trust each other again.

I love how they love each other and hurt each other and mess up badly and still try. I love that Walter's as idiotic as any parent, and Peter can be as stupidly petty as any kid, and that doesn't mean they don't love each other and worry about each other and more importantly, they both want a relationship.

Also, I'm a parent--this influences how I see most of Walter's actions. 1.) Hell fucking yes I would cross dimensions for my kid. 2.) Hell fucking yes if he was threatened the world might very well burn. 3.) Hell fucking yes yes yes I would not be sane if he died. I mean, I know this. It would not be unreasonable to invent a device to take me across dimensions and save an Alter!Child. And no, I'm not sure I would be able to let him go.

I'm not excusing Walter's actions in kidnapping Peter--I'm not, and for the record, his original intentions were good and he didn't intend absconding forever with him--but every time I watch it, I remember when Child was hospitalized with RSV when he was a month old and going into shock; it wasn't even dangerous, really, just precautionary. I look at him now, and it's not that I'm uncomfortable admitting this, because it's kind of like breathing, if I had a magic mirror and a doctorate in physics, my original intentions would be for outright absconding, no original good intentions required.

I love this show. I love Peter wary and distrustful and learning to trust and have faith, learning his father and learning himself, too, and everything good and bad about Walter and loving him for those things. It's just so rare that any show doesn't over-melodramaticize--and God knows, this sitch practically demands it--but Peter doesn't. He's angry and hurt and acts like it; and then he thinks when he can past the betrayal and weighs it. Then he puts it together and learns to forgive it.

I. Love. This. Show.
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2011-01-23 08:33 pm (UTC)
so. much. love.

goddddd i need all of season 3 right now so I can VID IT.
aurora: (Fringe Rooftop)

2011-01-23 08:42 pm (UTC)
I second all the love!
monanotlisa: (olivia sideways - fringe)

2011-01-23 09:22 pm (UTC)
my utter adoration of Olivia--I haven't loved any character like this since B'Elanna in Voyager-

Oh my God, Olivia. She is everything I ever wanted, AND MORE! \o/

1.) Hell fucking yes I would cross dimensions for my kid.

I stopped reading here because I'm only towards the end of S2, but really, even as a non-mother myself: YES, THIS.

I. Love. This. Show.

Hear ya, feel it too. Strongly.
cereta: Olivia Dunham Fights like a girl (olivia)

2011-01-24 03:10 am (UTC)
I adore this show, and goddammit, YES, on the kid part.
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2011-01-24 07:03 am (UTC)
Peter has an intersection of two traits that make for a deeply fascinating character: he's done so much in his weird, weird life, and he has a parent-like relationship with his father. It gives him that ability to roll with the punches, so that the newest bit of bizarre doesn't phase him for longer than it takes to make a witty comeback, and his awareness of Walter's childlike lack of understanding of consequence has taught him a seemingly endless capacity to forgive. Or maybe it's just that he's been alone so long that the only way to hang onto people is to forgive, and so he does it because he doesn't have any other choice. Either way, his role as the "mom" of the group- the emotional center, the one who forgives, the one who works behind the scenes, the one who may be called upon to sacrifice- is one of the main reasons this show is so fucking good. How many shows take their attractive male lead and cast him in a traditionally male female role? And how many shows take their attractive female lead and cast her in a traditionally male role without trampling all over her female-ness?

That ramble got a little out of hand, I think, when mostly I meant to say: Yes! All that! Fringe is awesome!

(Edit for typing fail.)
edited at 2011-01-24 07:04 am (UTC)
bientot: Fringe noir!Olivia (noir!Olivia)

2011-01-24 08:39 am (UTC)
Olivia breaks my heart a little, the way her life was taken from her by her alternate, the way she feels it so deeply - the scene at the washing machine was devastating! And the way she and Peter are gradually, slowly feeling out the path to trust again, both having been burned in such different ways! I love the other characters as well, and I adore the ways the actors have differentiated the AU versions of their characters so that we can see that it's the same person with different development...

In summary, I. Love. This. Show. You summed it up so well!!
less_star: young spock doing the thumbs-up sign (bbspock)

2011-01-24 09:19 pm (UTC)
Also, I'm a parent--this influences how I see most of Walter's actions. 1.) Hell fucking yes I would cross dimensions for my kid. 2.) Hell fucking yes if he was threatened the world might very well burn. 3.) Hell fucking yes yes yes I would not be sane if he died. I mean, I know this. It would not be unreasonable to invent a device to take me across dimensions and save an Alter!Child. And no, I'm not sure I would be able to let him go. *lightbulb moment* OMG, that's why I fell so hard for that storyline!! Oh, Fringe!

2011-01-23 08:54 pm (UTC)
Also, Twin Peaks shout out FTW!

2011-01-23 09:00 pm (UTC)
YES. THIS. What I love about this show is how human the characters are, how they're frail and indomitable at once, how they can be hurt and hurt and still go on living, how they can love each other and hate each other at the same time. They're so multidimensional.

2011-01-23 09:38 pm (UTC)
Man I need to catch up on Fringe... these little snippets are so tantalizing! Also, did I see Tuvok in a TV preview just now?

2011-01-23 09:45 pm (UTC)
IAWTP times a million.
edited at 2011-01-23 09:45 pm (UTC)

2011-01-23 11:40 pm (UTC)
Ditto!

2011-01-24 07:23 am (UTC)
Yes! I love this show too.

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